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Which is doubly weird as they have done 9 of the things

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They've just passed the four million Euro mark.

Already up with some of the biggest table-top/miniature kickstarters of all time.

I'm not committed yet. I'm waiting in reserve to hot drop in at the end. It will be a multi-regiment affair. 🤣

   
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 Flinty wrote:
Another comment indicated that they are updating the main page with renders of the mechs and vehicles in each box. Sounds like a good idea

Looks like all bar one of the ForcePack images are now on there - Legendary MechWarriors II is missing, but the campaign page does detail what will be in it.

There does seem to be a lot of Marauders in the Legendary boxes.

I'm dipping my toes in the water with BattleTech with this KS - backed at Company, picked up the core box locally today, and found one of the old BattleTech novels I've owned for 20+ years at this point. Not sure how things will be painted just yet, though.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Sticksville, Texas

 Dysartes wrote:
 Flinty wrote:
Another comment indicated that they are updating the main page with renders of the mechs and vehicles in each box. Sounds like a good idea

Looks like all bar one of the ForcePack images are now on there - Legendary MechWarriors II is missing, but the campaign page does detail what will be in it.

There does seem to be a lot of Marauders in the Legendary boxes.

I'm dipping my toes in the water with BattleTech with this KS - backed at Company, picked up the core box locally today, and found one of the old BattleTech novels I've owned for 20+ years at this point. Not sure how things will be painted just yet, though.


There is a reason Marauders are piloted by so many legendary pilots, and this is that is a darn good mech. When designed it was revolutionary, was the mech of choice for the Gunslinger Program, and ALL of the Black Watch cut their teeth on one.

It is a fantastic mech in lore, a great command platform, and a design that has maintained relevancy for hundreds of years due to being good from the get go.
   
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Watch this




Explains all about it

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Sticksville, Texas

 Flinty wrote:
Watch this




Explains all about it


I adore the Tex Talks Battletech, and the Sven Van Der Plank lore videos. Regularly listen to them at work.
   
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Hmmm, I've already got five marauders, and after the Legendary boxes I'll have seven. It's a popular 'Mech, but also a rare one in the Random Assignment Table book. I wish they'd make a 'Super Common Medium and Light 'Mech Company' box and sell it on their website.
   
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Form a collector's pov so many Marauders in the boxes is a real downside. But the players like me can never have too many Marauders. (I only have 1 metal, 1 new plastic, and a 1/72 scale Macross kit )

M.

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 Miguelsan wrote:
Form a collector's pov so many Marauders in the boxes is a real downside. But the players like me can never have too many Marauders. (I only have 1 metal, 1 new plastic, and a 1/72 scale Macross kit )

M.


If they made a premium Marauder, or a CGL resculpt Marauder from IWM... my ENTIRE gaming group has agreed they will max out any limitations for premium minis to get me as many as I could ever want.

Absolutely my favorite mech, and an absolute obsession of mine.
   
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 Miguelsan wrote:
Form a collector's pov so many Marauders in the boxes is a real downside. But the players like me can never have too many Marauders. (I only have 1 metal, 1 new plastic, and a 1/72 scale Macross kit )

M.

I was commenting on it more from a "Why so many duplicates?" POV, more than anything else.

+ + +

Out of interest, which of the ForcePacks are people looking to get, assuming you've pledged to get some of them? I'm thinking the Clan Direct Fire Star for one, but not sure about the other yet.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Japan

I'm kind of on the fence. I'm an Inner Sphere enthusiast, and have been since the '80's, but I'm not particularly enthused about the Mechs being offered. I suppose I'll have to go with vehicles, but I'm not really familiar with how any of them play, so I'll just have to get the coolest ones.

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I want to get at least two each of the IS lances. Maybe 3 or 4 of the pure light and medium lances, but those extras would be at retail. I'd be down for getting one of the Clan Stars too, but I don't have any interest in vehicles. I can 3d print vehicles for next to nothing, and official model or proxy seems the same to me for tanks and stuff like that.
   
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The Land of the Rising Sun

I want to get a Scorpion, and a Vulcan for sure. then the v'ttes, and the carriers. Other than that I'll see when the KS is done.

M.

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Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

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 Miguelsan wrote:
I want to get a Scorpion, and a Vulcan for sure. then the v'ttes, and the carriers. Other than that I'll see when the KS is done.

M.


IMO, Company pledge might be the best way to get the most bang for your buck :

Option 1
Recruit Pledge (35) :
Beginner Box - 2 Mechs
+1 Salvage Box - 1 Mech
Security Lance add-on (30) - 4 Mechs
Battle & Fire add-on (40) - 8 vees

105 USD (ex-shipping & VAT) for 7 Mechs + 8 vees

vs.

Option 2
Company Pledge (150) :
Mercenaries Box - 8 Mechs + 4 vees
+3 Salvage Boxes - another 3 Mechs
Battle & Fire + Security Lance as pledge rewards - 8 vehicles + 5 Mechs (because another Salvage Box for the IS Lance reward)
+ possibly another ForcePack if we hit the 5M stretch goal

150 USD (ex-shipping & VAT) for 16 Mechs + 12 vees (with possibly another ForcePack)


   
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 Dysartes wrote:
Out of interest, which of the ForcePacks are people looking to get, assuming you've pledged to get some of them? I'm thinking the Clan Direct Fire Star for one, but not sure about the other yet.

I'll wait for retail. It will be IS, not those dezgra surat Clanners. Most likely light and medium cavalry mechs, since that's what I like to play in CBT. Since Alpha Strike is new to me, I'm not sure how many lights and mediums are optimum for AS, but at the very least it will give more flexibility in meeting the points limit.

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The beefy Phoenix Hawk makes the direct fire star quite tempting, but the rest aren’t that interesting for me. I almost bumped up from company to battalion, but then Realised I’d end up with over 70 models that I’d never get to paint or use on the board!

With all that in mind, I’m thinking the battle armour Lance, the LRM/SRM carrier vehicle pack and the Legendary 2 pack as the 3 forcepacks at the pledge level, assuming it will hit 5m. Depending on the price of the battle armour, I might go for the legendary 3 pack instead and just buy the infantry.


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Momentum has well and truly been lost. Ho hum. Still should be able to make the 5m mark by the end of the campaign at this rate, but I suppose it’s just Monday after the launch weekend, so something impressive might be pulled out over the next couple of days.

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 Flinty wrote:
Momentum has well and truly been lost. Ho hum. Still should be able to make the 5m mark by the end of the campaign at this rate, but I suppose it’s just Monday after the launch weekend, so something impressive might be pulled out over the next couple of days.

The whole campaign has the issue of not being very good from a value perspective for overseas backers (or well, at least EU ones I guess), given that you have to pay VAT on top of shipping (which will be more expensive, just by being overseas). Having to pay 18-21% extra (from the full cost, including shipping cost, because that's how they do it) makes it more expensive than buying retail even with the swag thrown in.

And then the limited edition book is $200, and it's suddenly waaaaaaay too rich for my blood.

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Dropping momentum is to be expected when they aren't unlocking lots of new models.

Reaper Bones always maintained fairly good momentum but that was often because every so often they'd unlock a new bunch of models and everyone who was already backing was encouraged to pledge more on the new unlocks which would bump the money up and keep things going.

The "dead"zone between the first few and last few days is why a lot of GW are now only 2 weeks instead of 4 weeks/1month long. Because that long period in the middle generates very little money overall and can run the risk of slipping backwards or just stalling growth.

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Indeed. I backed Zombiecide Invader and they very deliberately kept unlocks going all the way through with mid-campaign set of add ons to get people to bump their pledge even just a little bit.

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Just about to go through the five million Dollar mark. I'm delighted with progress.

Not sure how posters thought the first few days pledges would continue until the end. That would make this Kickstarter nearly unique in not having a barren spell in the middle.

Still one of the biggest tabletop kicstarters of all time - and for a 1980s game that 'died' twenty years ago. Not bad at all.
   
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I think its helped that B-Tech never fully died, it just went very niche. It's also been bolstered a lot by the video games like Mech Warrior that kept alive the interest in the general public.

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 Overread wrote:
I think its helped that B-Tech never fully died, it just went very niche. It's also been bolstered a lot by the video games like Mech Warrior that kept alive the interest in the general public.

It wasn't so much that the game went 'niche', but with the history of the game after FASA closed their doors.

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You mean the $4.5m freebie Audiobook of a novel from 5 years ago doesn't keep the momentum going?



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The momentum does continue to be going, if not at quite the crazy rate of the first couple of days.

An audiobook is a nice little bonus - after all, this wasn't a pre-announced stretch goal to try to unlock, it was only announced after that mark was hit.

Dare we ask how you expressed yourself over there, that caused your comment to get flagged as breaking KS guidelines?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Florence, KY

 Dysartes wrote:
The momentum does continue to be going, if not at quite the crazy rate of the first couple of days.

It went up about $14,000 overnight, still a pretty decent chunk of change IMHO.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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I’m a bit surprised to see this kickstarter doing so well given there is little discount, particularly if you take into account shipping. I think a more reasonable offering on the part of catalyst is smart given the issues with other kickstarters, just surprised folks are pledging so much vs wait for retail and pay the same or less.
   
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York, NE

 Dysartes wrote:
The momentum does continue to be going, if not at quite the crazy rate of the first couple of days.

An audiobook is a nice little bonus - after all, this wasn't a pre-announced stretch goal to try to unlock, it was only announced after that mark was hit.

Dare we ask how you expressed yourself over there, that caused your comment to get flagged as breaking KS guidelines?


I said: "Way to work on keeping the momentum going forward with that newest reward...... LMAO!"


So clearly their butt is sore.

I guess some people enjoy crumbs more than others.



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Either/Or wrote:
I’m a bit surprised to see this kickstarter doing so well given there is little discount, particularly if you take into account shipping. I think a more reasonable offering on the part of catalyst is smart given the issues with other kickstarters, just surprised folks are pledging so much vs wait for retail and pay the same or less.


I think there a quite a few people holding out till later in the campaign to see if the value goes up before dropping the pledge, I certainly am. With VAT and shipping to the UK the value is just not there at the moment. Even with the difficulty of getting BT at retail locally, i will just wait for retail, if i even pick it up at all.
   
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York, NE

MaleficentRuler wrote:
Either/Or wrote:
I’m a bit surprised to see this kickstarter doing so well given there is little discount, particularly if you take into account shipping. I think a more reasonable offering on the part of catalyst is smart given the issues with other kickstarters, just surprised folks are pledging so much vs wait for retail and pay the same or less.


I think there a quite a few people holding out till later in the campaign to see if the value goes up before dropping the pledge, I certainly am. With VAT and shipping to the UK the value is just not there at the moment. Even with the difficulty of getting BT at retail locally, i will just wait for retail, if i even pick it up at all.


This is the case with a large amount of people.

You can see it in the comments on KS, here, Facebook groups, etc.....

Any when they get shouted down, they go silent.

That's never good.

Although the shills seem to like it and claim the moral victory.

I was in at $500, pulled to $80 and sat, as have many. Others are just sitting and waiting their time out.



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