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Just out of curiosity, what battalion box do you think is the strongest overall? Like if you had to fight a battle with nothing but the contents of that battalion box, which battalion box would win an overall round robin tourney?

Not in a particular order but something like this.
Lizard men
Vc
Woc

Maybe the tk one.

I would go with Woc since you get more points giving things marks and they can be more effective.

Ogres. You can't really beat that many ogre bulls at that point level, and you can build nothing but ogre bulls with the battalion box along with characters.

Fortunately, depending on the points, you may not even be able to field an ogre army with just the battalion because the characters are so expensive.

So true that and the Ogres are getting redone so I didnt include them since their box isnt sticking around too much longer.

VC or the new Daemon ones seems pretty appetising at its point level.

Ogers or WoC, both pack a mean punch. But WoC takes the throne by an inch, since they can be given so many nasty upgrades and leaders.

I'm assuming you are not following the legal army build? The VC box is missing a lord?

I would take a dwarf batallion but that's just me. I mean looking at the other armies choices, it seems to me that an organ gun would be pretty good in against any of them.

I gotta 2nd the dwarf battalion. You could make both a Organ Gun and Canon, though a pony cart from the Skull Pass or Miner kit would be ideal for putting a cannon or organ gun on. Here are 2 lists I made, 1 maximizing points and the other for a 1k list.

Thane -BSB -MroGromril -RoResistance -RoPreservation -RotFurnace - 160
Runelord -RoBalance -RoStone -RoPreservation -RoResistance -RotFurnace -Shield – 243
29 Dwarf Warriors -Longbeards -Great Weapons -Full Command -MRoGrungi - 452
14 Thunderers -Shields -Full Command - 235
Cannon (RoForging, RoBurning) - 130
Organ Gun - 120
1340

Thane -BSB -MroGromril -RoResistance - 140
Runesmith -RoSpellbreaking - Shield - 102
28 Dwarf Warriors -Great Weapons -Full Command - 305
12 Thunderers -Shields -Full Command - 205
Cannon (RoForging, RoBurning) - 130
Organ Gun - 120
997

The 1st list would kind of hurt from a lack of big blocks but the 2nd list would be quite effective at 1k. Both would require using models from the Thunderers and Warriors as crew for the 2nd war machine.

Haha awesome you really put a lot of thought into that!

I hope we are adding a hero to the battalions.

That would make them legal still the woc is nice.

I assume based on the OP you are to convert them from the battalion. So if that is the case the Ogre one would be good too. 6 bulls, 4 Ironguts, 2 Leadbelchers, convert the other 2 leadies into a tyrant and butcher and then have 24 gnoblars which you could use a few as some trappers, if you were able to get ahold of some more bases you could have a good amount of fighters and trappers.

Ok so you could build a hero give him a shield magic weapon.
A sorcerer could be made of a warrior as well.

So woc is not bad i guess.

I guess my question might be more clearly rephrased as which battalion box contains the most powerful set of models, as is, unmodded, but ignoring normal army composition rules such as having a general and points limits.

Woc most bang for your buck. This does include giving the units marks and banners unless thats what you mean by modding.

nah I just meant using the models to create units/characters they weren't intended to be. Non-wysiwyg stuff like marks or battle standards to me isn't modding. Nor would switching weapons around, provided all the weapons options are actually included in the battalion box.

I gotta bow out of this discussion is giving me a headache.

Well, model per model, Warriors of Chaos, thanks to their insane stats.

Most powerful Battalion though? Dwarfs. Organ Gun, Rangers and 32 Dwarf Warriors. Yeah, good stuff.

@Hautamaki if you are the guy on your avatar I advise you learn how to clench your fists properly or you will end up with a broken fist.


On the topic I would pick Woc

haha don't worry about my fists, I've been training for 15 years and fought professionally and never broken em yet =p

It's just a promo picture

cowpow16 wrote:So true that and the Ogres are getting redone so I didnt include them since their box isnt sticking around too much longer.

The box is getting redone, but only 1 change. Gnoblars are swapped out for 2 more Ironguts and thats it. 16 ogres total(6 bulls, 6 IGs, 4 leaddies)