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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 04:43:54
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Awesome Autarch
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I meant to play my footdar for ard boyz but was told that some guys at the store I was playing at would be rocking triple manticore leafblower lists possibly with hellhounds. As that is the worst match-up for footdar, I busted out the black templars instead.
Black template are very powerful since the FAQ, particularly at high points value games.
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Champ: preferred enemy vow
Inquisitor lord with Hood and 3 familiars (last time I'll be able to do this!)
Elites
Termies x 5: a.cannon x 2, tank hunters
Termies x 5: cyclone x 2, tank hunters
Termies x 7: hammer x 5, claw x 2, f.assault
Lrc : smoke
Troops
Crusaders x 5: melta, lazorback, x-arm, smoke
Same as above
Same as above minus melts
Fast
Typhoon
Typhoon
Typhoon
Heavy
Pred annihilator
Pred annihilator
Pred annihilator
Game 1: traitor
Opponent: guard
HQ
Ccs: creed, Kell, oof, astropath, moo
Elites
Strom troopers x 5: plasma x 2
Same as above
Marbo
Troops
Pcs : l.cannon, p.gun x 2
Hwt: l.cannon x 2
Same as above
Same as above
Hwt: m.launcher x 2
Same as above
Infantry squad: grenade launcher, chimera
same as above
Vets: demolitions, harker, melta x 3
Fast
Hellhound
Hellhound
Heavy
Bassie
Bassie
Demolished: Hull l.cannon
I won first turn, took it and then proceeded to fail all but two night fight checks. Despite this I jumped out to a big early kp lead as I started popping his easy to kill units. By turn 4 it looked like a route, and then the last surviving vet tossed his demo charge on my unit with the traitor and wiped them out! Haha, I couldn't believe it. All of a sudden it was a game again. But, turn 5 I pulled off two large multi assaults and my preds went hot and I picked up 8 kps in rapid succession. I got the massacre but missed 3 bonus points as my traitor got blown up about 3" from the deployment zone. 24 points to me.
The termiez were awesome, tank hunting and preferred enemy makes them good against everything. Running towards the enemy on a break check means people don't want to shoot them. They are incredibly good units. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, all lists are from memory, so they may not be 100% accurate.
Game 2: 5 objectives
Opponent: ig
HQ
Ccs, a.cannon, p.gun x 2
Troops
Vets, melta x 3, chimera
Same as above
Same as above
Same as above with plasma
same as above with plasma
Pcs, chimera, flamed x 4
Blob x 30, a.cannon x 3, g.launcher x 3, commissar, p.weapon x 4
Blob x 20, a.cannon x 2, g.launcher x 2, commissar, p.weapons x 3
Fast
Vendetta x 2
Vendetta
Vendetta
Heavy
Manticore
Manticore
Manticore
I got first turn again which was huge in this match up. Since his.vendettas couldn't scout move, they were dead immediately. I bum rushed him with the assault termies and they made it into assault and just went through his units like a hot knife. If you can get into ig lines quickly, they fold.
Despite only have three, 5 man scoring units Automatically Appended Next Post: I was able to take 3 objectives worth 6 points. I killed all of his troops which left him with none.
This put me at table one against my zero comp team mate, ChristianA and his nasty grey knight henchmen army.
Again, the termies were the stars. Shooting and assaulting like champs. Automatically Appended Next Post: My last game was going to be very tough. Christian's army is brutal and he is a very skilled opponent. In our practice game the night before his cover saves were hot and he demolished me. I knew my army could beat his, I just needed a little luck.
HQ
Coteaz
Libby: warp rift, might, shrouding, pskotrope
Elite
Teschmarine, Rad, psykotrope
Ven psyfilmen
Same
Troops
Psyker x 8, accolyte x 3, m.gun x 3, chimera
Same
Same
Same
Assassin x 6, crusader x 3
Same
Fast
Stormraven
Same
Heavy
psyfilemen
Same
Same
A brutal army. I got first turn again (I got first every game and never rolled higher than a 3!) And Christian let me have it. We positioned for a first turn strike and Christian decided to be bold and.bum rushed me with his stormravens turn 1, popping a lazorback and typhoon with potms. I then shot both stormravens down, which was huge. I had to stop those stupidly underpriced assassin units from getting into combat with me.
I wiped one unit out but couldn't destroy the second. I maneuvered away from the surviving assassin unit as much as possible.
We traded broadsides with our shooting units, mailing each other. His assassins got into my lines and smoked a termie squad and another lazorback. I pulled away from them leaving a larger than 12" gap between him and me, forcing him to cross no man's land to try and assault again, which Christian chose not to risk and hid them.
I was losing units fast and was hiding those who lost combat effectiveness or couldn't contribute. Seeing that only a bold move would get me back in the game, I sent the assault termies and champ on a hail marry assault into Christian's lines. I made my assault by a hair's breadth and my termies just waded through everything they touched. I started smashing chimeras, troop units and dreads.
The game ended turn 5 before I could finish off his backfield which was a bummer. I had caught up big time on VPs and at the final count, we tied with a less than 100 point difference.
Great game! The inquisitor really helped, shutting down a boat load of powers. Dropping the stormravens turn 2 saved my Bacon and hiding units that were being outgunned was what saved me from a loss.
In the end, I won with 58 points. ChristianA got second with 56 and stave stiff, also on team zero comp, got third with 54 using his blood angels.
Looking forward to round 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 05:35:59
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Fixture of Dakka
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Congrats on the wins. Christian's army is very similar to my grey knights...not! But we do have the same 5 dreads in common.
Your round #2 opponent is pretty nasty....I'd love to play against him. Dreads for his manticores/vendettas and cleansing flame for the blobs. Heh, heh...
Maybe I'll see you at the Semi's if you guys will be going to Legends in San Jose. You or Christian. Either ways, it would be a rematch of sorts. Both looks like a very fun list to play against.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 05:43:57
Subject: Re:black templars ard boyz prelims
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Excellent work! Hope to see you at the Semifinals. Will you be using the same army or going back to Footdar? Either way good luck. I ended with 50 battlepoints in third. I think our 1st place was in the 60's, 2nd was 53, iirc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 05:48:49
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Awesome Autarch
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Yeah, I hope to see you guys at the tournament next month. I don't know what I'll play. I won't be able to bring the inquisitor as the sister's codex will be finished in white dwarf and allies are gone. That infinite range Hood really helps against the inevitable grey Knight opponents. We'll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 05:53:04
Subject: Re:black templars ard boyz prelims
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gus Indo wrote:Excellent work! Hope to see you at the Semifinals. Will you be using the same army or going back to Footdar? Either way good luck. I ended with 50 battlepoints in third. I think our 1st place was in the 60's, 2nd was 53, iirc.
Actually, Janthkin's draw in his final game knocked him down to 56-57 pts only. Still a very good score, and your Tau knocked me down to just 2nd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 08:53:11
Subject: Re:black templars ard boyz prelims
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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jy2 wrote: Actually, Janthkin's draw in his final game knocked him down to 56-57 pts only. Still a very good score, and your Tau knocked me down to just 2nd. True, but a massacre would have had you playing Janthkin, David taking second, and bumping me down. It was all part of the plan. Automatically Appended Next Post: Reecius wrote:Yeah, I hope to see you guys at the tournament next month. I don't know what I'll play. I won't be able to bring the inquisitor as the sister's codex will be finished in white dwarf and allies are gone. That infinite range Hood really helps against the inevitable grey Knight opponents. We'll see.
Infinite range Runes of Warding. Its even better!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 18:41:43
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Fixture of Dakka
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Reecius wrote:I won't be able to bring the inquisitor as the sister's codex will be finished in white dwarf and allies are gone. That infinite range Hood really helps against the inevitable grey Knight opponents. We'll see.
The 'Ard Boyz Rules don't mention the loss of the Witchhunter codex; it's in the approved list on page 3 (with a note to see the FAQ). So unless they release new rules, or a new FAQ saying "dead codex," you can probably still bring them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 19:39:07
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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To bad I didnt make it to the next round haha. ended with I believe 47 pts in 4th with a minor, major, and tie. Beat both the 2nd and 3rd place players, and tied the first haha. Just my luck as always :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 20:21:41
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Awesome Autarch
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@janthkin
Thanks for pointing that out. I may use them again if that's the case. With the inquisitor, they have tools for everything. The only list that really worries me is a true horde, but I'm unlikely to face one.
@will
That sucks, bro. You do seem to have gakky luck at big events. You kick ass in all the rtts we go to. I actually played a practice game with the guy who won and helped him strengthen his list. I didnt't realize he'd be playing you! Haha, oh well. I'm sure you'll be crushing people with your new blood angels once you get them done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/16 21:50:16
Subject: Re:black templars ard boyz prelims
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@Will: The minor, major, massacre way of determining winners is really crappy. I'm Chuck, the guy who beat you out for 3rd by 1 Battle Point, and it's just dumb that someone who goes 2-0-1 loses out to someone who goes 2-1, simply because your two wins were closely fought games instead of curbstomps. Also people conceding and giving full points (including bonuses) to their opponent can really screw things up, in tournaments like this people should always fight to the end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 02:59:24
Subject: Re:black templars ard boyz prelims
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks for sharing Reecius.
It's good to see an older codex outperforming newer ones. Your termies are super deadly!
I missed the old Inq Lord with infinite hood. I had a lot of fun pairing it with Eldrad in Apoc.
Good luck in the semifinals!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 03:17:31
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Like the list...I was seriously considering running Templars for 'ard boyz but unfortunately I don't have the models. All those termies, cheap typhoons, and plenty of troops too! As it was I ended up having to glue 500 random points onto my Bjorn list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/17 12:13:54
Subject: black templars ard boyz prelims
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Excellent!
Although sadly, I wonder how much worse off the templars will be without a psychic hood?
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