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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 10:17:37
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Duke Sliscus
Troops
10x Kabalite warriors
splinter cannon
blaster
Raider
flickerfield
splinter racks
10x Kabalite warriors
splinter cannon
Raider
flickerfield
splinter racks
10x wyches
Hydra gauntlets
Hekatrix
Agoniser
Raider
Flickerfield
shock prow
10x wyches
Hydra gauntlets
Hekatrix
Agoniser
Raider
Flickerfield
shock prow
Elites
4x Kabalite trueborn
Shardcarbine
Venom
splinter cannon
Fast Attack
6x reaver jetbike
2x Blaster
Heavy support
Ravager
Flickerfield
Ravager
Flickerfield
Hit me with hard critics as i want to improve, thank you in advance fellow wargammers.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/20 19:12:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 11:23:54
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Not bad for first try. 50 dark eldar rushing at you is no joke. I don't have much experience with Dark Eldar, but this list seems a bit low on firepower.
Why not choose a diiferent army then DE? ( they are scary and somewhat grusome to me) Jk. Just my opinion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 11:53:55
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Ichor-Dripping Talos Monstrosity
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dreadknightl wrote:Not bad for first try. 50 dark eldar rushing at you is no joke. I don't have much experience with Dark Eldar, but this list seems a bit low on firepower.
Why not choose a diiferent army then DE? ( they are scary and somewhat grusome to me) Jk. Just my opinion
this list currently has... 24-28 4+ poison shots with rerolls, 14 lance shots, 12 3+ poison shots, 16 4+ poison shots and whatever the wyches have shootingwise... plus the wyches are for assaulting anyways.
I'd also find a way to give the Trueborn cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 12:15:05
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Posting individual pt costs is ilegal as its GW's IP.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 19:14:20
Subject: Re:A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Sorry, points are out now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 20:56:26
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Kelne
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The blasters on the jetbikes are wasted points IMO. I use my bikes to (s)troll aroun the battlefield with turbo boost, tho.
Other than that, it looks decent. You could get rid of shock prows and the like as they are a waste on a av10 vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 21:10:09
Subject: Re:A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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yeah I agree, but i didnt knew where to put the extra points. thanks for all the comments already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 21:34:32
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Executing Exarch
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Ok first off I would run Heamons with liquefier instead of a mediocre IC
Then I would ditch the splinter racks, they are just to expensive since they don't work on anything put rifles.
Next 10 wyches is to many. You want to assualt and kill only enough troops to stay fighting until the opponents turn, that way they don't get shot to pieces.
7 is enough, but if you have access to venoms you might want to think about running them as elites in two groups of five. If you stick with the raiders I would diitch the ram and take a trophy to keep your wyches from running if they loose combat.
After that split the bikes into two groups of three. That way you can attack two different units, and contest two different objectives all for the same amount of points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 21:47:30
Subject: Re:A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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thank you Clthomps, i will seriously consider your opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 22:01:03
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Ichor-Dripping Talos Monstrosity
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Alkasyn wrote:The blasters on the jetbikes are wasted points IMO. I use my bikes to (s)troll aroun the battlefield with turbo boost, tho.
Other than that, it looks decent. You could get rid of shock prows and the like as they are a waste on a av10 vehicle.
An AV10 vehicle.. that can move 24" (26-36 with aethersails) which is a strength 8 hit base ( 9 at 29", 10 at 30" etc ) which is hardly something to sneer at, something relatively funny is doing a set of raiders ( 4-8 ) with Shock Prows, Aethersails, and maybe Flickerfields, drop the troops first turn, zip to a relevant position next turn maybe a darklance shot or two, then suicide the raiders into any vehicles going flat out using them as Strength 8+ missiles (they might even survive with a FF)
Also - Duke Sliscus is pretty good, specially in a group of 20 warriors with twin cannons, but yeah Haemys with Liquifiers are good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 23:54:08
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Executing Exarch
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as for the Prows why waste time and effort into getting a position to move flat out and ram for 8 str when the dark lance on it already has 8 str and is a LANCE!
The only reason prows are ok, is if your lance gets destroyed or if you have a lot of heamons with Liq and you are really good at tank shocking to get enemies lined up while still being able to fire from the boat.
Oh and I forgot in my previous post the hemons should go with the wyches and stay on the boat when then disembark, transferring their to token and then cruising around flaming things off the prow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/21 00:13:15
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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that sounds eviliscious xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/21 00:37:43
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Ichor-Dripping Talos Monstrosity
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Just double checked the rule - it gives + D3 to the armour SO
From what I gather
1 - It's funny as hell.
2 - It isn't capable of missing at 24" away, doesn't need LoS, isnt affected by cover etc.
3 - It'll tank shock everything in its path.
4 - They won't be expecting it, you've effectively put 4-8 S9-10 one-shot missiles that can't miss into their mech, that if they have flickerfileds have a 1 in 3 chance of surviving to do it again.
Not saying I advocate regular use of it, but it IS funny, unexpected, cant miss and has a rather decent chance of ending its target aswell as tankshocking things along the way... not an entirely unattractive option for 70-80 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/21 04:38:08
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
Chicago Suburbs
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Ovion wrote:Just double checked the rule - it gives + D3 to the armour SO
From what I gather
1 - It's funny as hell.
2 - It isn't capable of missing at 24" away, doesn't need LoS, isnt affected by cover etc.
3 - It'll tank shock everything in its path.
4 - They won't be expecting it, you've effectively put 4-8 S9-10 one-shot missiles that can't miss into their mech, that if they have flickerfileds have a 1 in 3 chance of surviving to do it again.
Not saying I advocate regular use of it, but it IS funny, unexpected, cant miss and has a rather decent chance of ending its target aswell as tankshocking things along the way... not an entirely unattractive option for 70-80 points.
Playing a friend on tuesday, going to try this. It would make him cry if I managed to ram his land raider into nothingness and made my FF save... it would be worth it just for the ridiculousness of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/22 17:29:35
Subject: Re:A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Haemonculus
liquifier gun
Haemonculus
liquifier gun
Troops
10x Kabalite warriors
splinter cannon
blaster
Raider
flickerfield
10x Kabalite warriors
splinter cannon
Raider
flickerfield
7x wyches
Hydra gauntlets
Hekatrix
Agoniser
Raider
Flickerfield
7x wyches
Hydra gauntlets
Hekatrix
Agoniser
Raider
Flickerfield
Elites
4x Kabalite trueborn
Shardcarbine
Venom
splinter cannon
Fast Attack
6x reaver jetbike
2x Blaster
Heavy support
Ravager
Flickerfield
Ravager
Flickerfield
Ravager
flickerfield
what about this? the haemys will go with a wytch squad each, and i manage to fit another ravager.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/22 22:47:33
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Executing Exarch
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Looks good, only Split the Bikes into two groups.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/22 23:51:36
Subject: A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Clthomps wrote:Looks good, only Split the Bikes into two groups.
Agreed, take the bikes and split them. makes them harder to kill by virtue of they have to commit to one of the two. I like the amount of shooting this list has...I would NOT want to be going second versus this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 09:35:18
Subject: Re:A new wargammer try, my first DE 1500 pts list.
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Ok i will split them, thanks for all the comments Automatically Appended Next Post: And the second warrior squad is missing a blaster, dam you copy paste xD
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/23 09:36:40
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