re-basing models on larger bases

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**2000 Volts**

So I recently bought, assembled and painted the old tech marine model and IMHO It looks terrible on a 25mm base. I have a spare 40MM base I'd ;ike to rebase it on. Can anyone cite any rules/conflicts which may arise from this?

**AustonT**

Models must be played on the bases they are supplied with to prevent modeling for advantage. Im sure if you are just playing friends then it's no biggie.

**Sam__theRelentless**

It used to be like that back in 4th Ed I think but they changed it due to MfA in DS and disembarking, etc.

**AustonT**

I have no idea what you mean sam but I would like to hear more.

**Sam__theRelentless**

The book said it wasn't a problem if your base was larger, but you could never have a smaller base.

**AustonT**

Oo. I did not know that. Do you know what section it is in?

**Sam__theRelentless**

Not really. I think it was near the front of the 4th Edition rulebook, but my friend whom I borrowed it from has taken it back

**AustonT**

Ok I see it its on page 6 of the 4ed BRB. but in the 5ed on page 3 it says you should consult your opponent.
That was my understanding as it were.
Its probably a good thing they did away with the "base supplied with the mini is the minimum size base" a majority of my assembled terminators came on 25mm bases.

**Emperors_Champion**

I think as long as its an offical size and a sensible base then its fine.

I don't think you'd get away with a special character on a moster base as you gain an advantage when in base to base for cc.

But then you are at a disadvantage for movement and disembarking?

Come to think of it that space wolf dude is on a monster base?

Hmm. . .

**Kilkrazy**

AustonT wrote:Models must be played on the bases they are supplied with to prevent modeling for advantage. Im sure if you are just playing friends then it's no biggie.

Technically that isn't the rule.

There is nothing about modelling for advantage.

Larger bases cause a number of disadvantages as well as some advantages.

I have rebased many of my figures because they don't fit on the original bases. I've never had a problem. If an opponent complained, I would simply withdraw from the game rather than inflict a perceived unfair disadvantage on him.

**Wyrmalla**

A good few of the tournement armies featured in the old White Dwarf's had armies that were exclusively based on bases larger than their miniature's originals (mostly marines), so it really shouldn't be a bigee to your average casual gamer. I tend to base my special characters etc on slightly larger bases (30mm instead of 25mm) just so I can add a bit more detail to them and find them easier on the battlefield (though a company commander has a leadership range of 12', and thus having a larger base would be an advantage to him, having a vox caster negates this bonus). ...The larger bases tend to just get them killed faster.

**AustonT**

Kilkrazy wrote:
AustonT wrote:Models must be played on the bases they are supplied with to prevent modeling for advantage. Im sure if you are just playing friends then it's no biggie.

Technically that isn't the rule.

There is nothing about modelling for advantage.

Larger bases cause a number of disadvantages as well as some advantages.

I have rebased many of my figures because they don't fit on the original bases. I've never had a problem. If an opponent complained, I would simply withdraw from the game rather than inflict a perceived unfair disadvantage on him.

True that is not technically the rule. The rule is:

Citadel miniatures are normally supplied with a plastic base. If so, they must be glued onto their bases before they can be used in a game.

Some players like to mount their models on impressive scenic bases. As mounting your models on different sized bases might affect the way they interact with the rules, make sure before the game that your opponent does not mind this.

5ed BRB p3

I posted my interpretation of the rules which may not be entirely correct, just my opinion that I would be willing to debate.
I certainly wouldn't have any problem with playing an army on larger bases, as long as they weren't just blank plastic. If I saw say, Seth on a 40mm base I might be a little shifty about him using his whirlwind of gore rule.

Wyrmalla wrote:A good few of the tournement armies featured in the old White Dwarf's had armies that were exclusively based on bases larger than their miniature's originals (mostly marines), so it really shouldn't be a bigee to your average casual gamer. I tend to base my special characters etc on slightly larger bases (30mm instead of 25mm) just so I can add a bit more detail to them and find them easier on the battlefield (though a company commander has a leadership range of 12', and thus having a larger base would be an advantage to him, having a vox caster negates this bonus). ...The larger bases tend to just get them killed faster.

A lot of the armies shown in older WDs were built in 4ed where there was NO restriction about larger bases, you just couldn't go smaller. There are certainly implied advantages and disadvantages to different bases. I happen to agree with both of you that larger base sizes have both advantages and disadvantages. Just throwing some extra wrenches in the gears.

**Sam__theRelentless**

I'm sure no-one will mind if you mount a special character on a 30mm base, it's a very small discrepancy. Just don't go overboard

I'm not sur what the rule about tournaments would be, obviously GTs and stuff I'm guessing would be very strict, and the opposite with local tournies.

**Nightfall**

I don't see I it should be against the rules for bigger bases, (i can understand smaller ones) but if the base is bigger it makes the model a bigger target!

**Sam__theRelentless**

No, the base is not used for determining LOS...