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Hey everybody, my friend and I were playing SM and Orks, the battle for black reach starter set, and he used an interesting tactic with SM. It was:

1. I assaulted as Orks, beat him
2. he used Combat Tactics to fail the morale test and fall back
3. I failed a sweeping advance
4. He used the ATSKNF to to regroup, which allows him to move as normal and regroup even if within 6", Correct?
5. He shoots his flamer, and then assaults again
6. I lose the unit and HQ, then the match.

Is this a legal set of moves?

I apologize for my Newbishness and thanks in advance.

It was correct up until step 4 where he used ATSKNF to regroup. If you have a model within 6" of that unit at the beginning of his turn they automatically fail again and have to fall back a further 2d6. If you had been outside 6" from his unit then it would have been perfectly legal as ATSKNF allows him to regroup in almost any other circumstance.

ATSKNF Doesn't override the no regrouping within 6" restriction. If you are allowed to take the test, you auto-pass. You are also allowed to take them even under half strength. But it doesn't allow you to take them within 6", so instead of regrouping he should have fallen back again (assuming they were within 6").

Yup.

You can escort marine units off the table.

My Scarabs are rather fond of doing that, if i can get the squad to break...

its just getting the squad to break thats the problem.

Yup

Pariahs bodyguarding a Lord with a Nightmare shroud is my favourite, possibly with the Deciever as the other HQ

Occasionally i luck out

wish i could vod paraihs. would make them SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more dangerous.

At 'Ard Boyz, my Landraider tank shocked a Thunderwolf Deathstar (Canis, Lord, and 4 TWC) out of necessity to line up its Flamestorm on some Grey Hunters. The Wolves broke, fell 1" away from the board edge, so I disembarked my Librarian and ran him to within 6". My opponent was not very happy.

Tracer Bullet wrote:. If you had been outside 6" from his unit then it would have been perfectly legal as ATSKNF allows him to regroup in almost any other circumstance.

ATSKNF overrides exactly one restriction, the one about being below half. Everything else still applies.

yeah ATSKNF along with combat tactics can be pretty effective if he has the next turn since then he can rapid fire the hell out of you. Just stay within that 6 inches and you will just keep making them run.

Consolidate your orks towards his marines next time.

Deathsadvocate wrote:yeah ATSKNF along with combat tactics can be pretty effective if he has the next turn since then he can rapid fire the hell out of you. Just stay within that 6 inches and you will just keep making them run.

Until the marines that are falling back, use their bolters to double tap and make you fall back as well, then rally next turn anyway.

If the orks number 11 modals thet're fearless.Therer are at the most 9 modals,probably less.They fire 18 shots and miss 1/3,so that is 12 shots hit.They then wound with half.That is 6 dead orks.not enough to cause fall back.That is if the orks killed only 1.There is a large group of 20.If the SM are in Rapid fire range,then the sluggas will be in range too.So that is 12 shots,4 hit,and 2 wound and usually 2 are saved.Followed by 6 Big Shoota shots,6,4 hit,2.3333 wound and 1.5 fail,so that is 1~2 dead.Follow that up with another assault to kill more and repeat.

Thanks for all of the information on the rule. I am still trying to figure this game out, but with you guys and the people at my local gaming store I think that I can get to the point where I don't embarrass the Emperor. Thanks again!