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Sorry if this has been answered before, I searched the forum quickly and couldn't find anything about it.

Since units with Rage are required to move towards the closest enemy unit in their movement phase, does this override their ability to embark into transports, even if they embark before moving? I know that Grotsnik, while not actually affected by Rage, has a similar question answered in the ork FAQ saying that he can embark so long as it's driven towards the closest enemy unit. Using this as a precedent, could I park a rhino next to a unit of death company one turn, then next turn have them embark and move them the full 18"? Furthermore, since they're in a vehicle, would I be able to regain control of where they were moving, as it mentions under the rage USR, or is that "against the spirit of the rule" and I would be obliged to drive them at the closest enemy?

This has been answered before and the answer is... (drum roll please) you can embark a raged unit onto a transport and as long as they are on said transport do not have to suffer from the rage effect. If, however, their transport is wrecked/destroyed or they disembark for any reason they are once again affected by the rage.

This is the only way to keep Death Company from chasing a chew toy Land Speeder.

bruno.sardine wrote:..could I park a rhino next to a unit of death company one turn, then next turn have them embark and move them the full 18"? ...

As for Rage and embarking, models are given permission to embark, rage does not take this ability away.

As for moving a BA rhino Flat out after embarking, this can not be done. Units can not embark onto a transport if it has moved flat out, or is going to move flat out in the movement phase.

With that said I see no reason you can not embark them and move the rhino 12" towards the nearest enemy.

DeathReaper wrote:

bruno.sardine wrote:..could I park a rhino next to a unit of death company one turn, then next turn have them embark and move them the full 18"? ...

As for Rage and embarking, models are given permission to embark, rage does not take this ability away.

As for moving a BA rhino Flat out after embarking, this can not be done. Units can not embark onto a transport if it has moved flat out, or is going to move flat out in the movement phase.

With that said I see no reason you can not embark them and move the rhino 12" towards the nearest enemy.

Whoops, of course. Forgot that little caveat. Thanks for the info!

well, you don't have to move the vehicle towards the closest enemy, as it doesnt have rage eh?

Also, from my understanding, if you park the rhino in such a way that the Death Company don't see any enemy on the board, they will not move toward the enemy.

Best idea when playing Blood Angels . . . don't use Death Company.

bruno.sardine wrote:Sorry if this has been answered before, I searched the forum quickly and couldn't find anything about it.

Since units with Rage are required to move towards the closest enemy unit in their movement phase, does this override their ability to embark into transports, even if they embark before moving? I know that Grotsnik, while not actually affected by Rage, has a similar question answered in the ork FAQ saying that he can embark so long as it's driven towards the closest enemy unit. Using this as a precedent, could I park a rhino next to a unit of death company one turn, then next turn have them embark and move them the full 18"? Furthermore, since they're in a vehicle, would I be able to regain control of where they were moving, as it mentions under the rage USR, or is that "against the spirit of the rule" and I would be obliged to drive them at the closest enemy?

Mad Dok's rule is much deeper and more controlling than rage. Don't get into the mistake of comparing the two. Mad Dok's rule also doesn't have a LOS component like rage, so that is why you have to worry about people forcing the Dok ro move, disembark and not being allowed to re-embark. Also, Rage is a rule that is governed by RAW... Only Mad Dok's rule has 'against the spirit of the rule' within FAQ so only Mad Dok can someone argue RAi and other stuff like 'will embarking get me closer to the enemy and assaulting.'

nkelsch wrote:Mad Dok's rule is much deeper and more controlling than rage. Don't get into the mistake of comparing the two.

Very good point. Thanks for clarifying that!

Alkasyn wrote:Also, from my understanding, if you park the rhino in such a way that the Death Company don't see any enemy on the board, they will not move toward the enemy.

That's true, if they don't have LOS to any enemy units, you control them normally. But assuming that they have LOS to something else, say 48 inches away, could they embark in the rhino? As DeathReaper and Sanguinis have said, the answer is yes.

Thanks for the help all

Last sentence of rage clarifies that you don't have to drive closer to the enemy once embarked.

What if a raging squad move towards the closest unit and there happens to be an empty rhino in front of them. Are they then required to embark since after they do so they would be closer to the enemy, measuring from the hull?

paintedpotato wrote:Last sentence of rage clarifies that you don't have to drive closer to the enemy once embarked.

What if a raging squad move towards the closest unit and there happens to be an empty rhino in front of them. Are they then required to embark since after they do so they would be closer to the enemy, measuring from the hull?

In that situation, I would say yes, since they:

1: Have the ability to embark

2: Must move as fast as possible towards the closest visible unit.

so If they all end up within 2" of a access point of an empty vehicle, and can fit inside said vehicle, I would say they would have to embark.