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I cant think of one. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

What can orks take to bring down 6 vendettas filled with men while still being able to compete against other armies.

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Lots and lots of fast moving orks.Surround the base of the Vendetta,use the hidden claw to destro it,and because the guys can't get out,they are lost.SAG would also be good,especially if you roll a 12 for str.Good bye to the whole group.

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You can't count on hitting fast moving vehicles in CC, or for that matter(catching them)

Lootas IMO are your best bet, however that said. 6 Vendettas aren't that scary to orks 3xTwinlinked Lascannons times 6 ... meh not too scary

Scary to me would be the valks with rocket pods

Lootas, some rokkits, stuff of the sort and a bit of luck

   
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Lootas, lootas, and more lootas! 15-45 shots per unit per turn will turn valks into scrap metal. After that you can sweep them up with fast elements, like bikers, koptas, or trukkboyz.

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Lootaz and buggies are probably best at shooting down huge AV12 skimmers. However, if you catch them with boyz, their many attacks are going to wreck the entire squad.

In addition, add rokkits to your boyz squads and maybe even nobz, a single lucky shot is enough to bring them down.

The only reason for that kind of setup being strong at all is probably the missing reach of orks and the reliance on Kanz/BW which are both easily killed by that many vendettas. However, buggies, lootaz and maybe koptaz should turn the game to your favor. You don't even need big units of 15 lootaz, 3 units of 5 should be enough.

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A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
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From what I am reading,it seems like people are trying to tailor the list for taking down the Vendettas.The Op still wants to be able to take on other lists and armies.

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Deadshot wrote:From what I am reading,it seems like people are trying to tailor the list for taking down the Vendettas.The Op still wants to be able to take on other lists and armies.


Lootas are a great thing for any Ork army to take and fit nicely in a take all comers style list.

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augustus5 wrote:
Deadshot wrote:From what I am reading,it seems like people are trying to tailor the list for taking down the Vendettas.The Op still wants to be able to take on other lists and armies.


Lootas are a great thing for any Ork army to take and fit nicely in a take all comers style list.


Agreed, lootas are literally your best elite unit with the exception of nobz. They're the ork autocannon which has enough shots to tear apart infantry and good enough strength to shut down mech and MC

 
   
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Fair enough.

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Same for buggies really. And it's not like there is nothing else in the game that has AV12 and needs to die quickly.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Also, pretty sure the OP just asked how to take down a specific list. Nobody said anything about not tailoring.
   
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A full unit of shootas with a KFF o


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A full unit of shootas with a KFF in reach will let you pour withering amounts of fire at anything without having to worry too badly about being shot back at. Strong enough to kill anything but a land raider but enough fire to shred infantry.

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Lootas. Yup.
   
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with the new FAQ you can also Def rolla the the base. If you dont get past its dodge roll you shoot it with lootas and then still attack it with a boarding plank without getting out (you could also get out and surround the base and attack it, if your kff is in that wagon you can leave him inside and still plank it). Thats three (posibly 4) chances in three different phases wich gives you opptions deppending on with one works. All these tactics work well with other armys also.

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Though, against guard, there are usually better targets to deffrolla that can't dodge.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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kanonz work pretty well and are cheap s a backup for lootas. if i have any extra points in a list i always try to buy some

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More Boyz and Lootas.

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Glasgow, Scotland

Orks hacve the simplest tacitcs and fix'ems in 40k.

"If at first you don't succeed,keep hitting.If it refuses to stay down.Hit it harder.If it won't stay down,keep hitting till it does."

Another

"If problems arise,get more modals on the table."

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Has anyone mentioned Lootas yet. . . .

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No,don't think so.

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Looyas are not just for skimmers. They're inda like Ork Devs to me. Heavy shooty weapons with lots of dakka and range. You can use them on skimmers, transports, light vehicles...

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The IG Air Cav list is all about fail. While it's a kool looking army on the table. No self-respecting Ork boss should worry about it. Lootas make IG players cry when their pretty flying machines nose dive into the ground.

   
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Glasgow, Scotland

Or BA and GK.

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puma713 wrote:Has anyone mentioned Lootas yet. . . .



Lootas.... that IS a good idea

Seems Dakka Dakka is of one mind here, Main joy of Lootas over Ramming/Rokkit Buggies/Deff Koptas is the 48" range rather then 24". If you want to have a mixed list that isn't tailored for anything but able to deal with most things then Lootas/Buggies/Koptas are you best anti tank at range, and odds are you'll want Lootas + one of the others. I like smaller squads of looters so you have different arks of fire and can get on the sides of Russ' tanks, granted I rarely pop them at range but "Can't shoot next turn" is an awesome effect if there is a few trukks worth of boys rushing forwards.

SAG can do it but odds are rather low just because it's so random. Kanz also have a good chance to pop things tho while they are better BS they aren't twin Linked and a lot slower then buggies or Koptas.

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I have a friend that always rolls double 6 for his SAG.Basically,he charges towards the nearest superheavy and obliterates it,because the rules for SAG don't omit Superheavies,unlike Vortex Missiles/Grenades.

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Deadshot wrote:I have a friend that always rolls double 6 for his SAG.Basically,he charges towards the nearest superheavy and obliterates it,because the rules for SAG don't omit Superheavies,unlike Vortex Missiles/Grenades.


"6,6 Raargh!: The tunnel opens a hole into the warp itself, and a ravening cloud of sentient daemonic ichor gushes out into the material realm. Any model hit by the gun this turn is removed from play. Vehicles take an automatic penetration hit."
Ok so you could suck a MC or something since it says nothing about the big ins but Super Heavy Tanks are Vehicles.... so one pen hit. Vortex Missile removes everything (inc tanks) and does D3 structure points on Superheavy's

But anyway the SAG is great fun just reading out the randomness of it in a silly Orky voice

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You guy might want to check the FAQ. The SAG works just like a vortex grenade, it just adds an additional penetrating hit.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Ah well didn't spot that one but then only just played my first game of Apoc last week

Good to know tho.

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So the answer when brought down to its most simple and most orky is NEEDS MORE DAKKA.

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The first solution to any Ork army problem is "you need more Boyz".

If that's not the answer, it's "you need more Lootas".

There's no step after that. Those two rules let Orks beat anything.

This isn't simply some ork-wise joke either, that really is all there needs to be to winning with orks.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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