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Jidmah wrote:You guy might want to check the FAQ. The SAG works just like a vortex grenade, it just adds an additional penetrating hit.


http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m970066a_2010_Orks_FAQ
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/i/IAAFAQ.pdf

These FAQs?

I can't find the reference you mention.
   
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






Q. Are models that are immune to instant death
(such as those with eternal warrior) removed
from the table when hit by a Shokk Attack Gun
which rolls a “Raargh” result?
A. Yes, unless they are gargantuan creatures or
super-heavy vehicles (see the Apocalypse book).


DarknessEternal wrote:The first solution to any Ork army problem is "you need more Boyz".

If that's not the answer, it's "you need more Lootas".

There's no step after that. Those two rules let Orks beat anything.

This isn't simply some ork-wise joke either, that really is all there needs to be to winning with orks.


Wow, you're pure genius! I guess all those people fielding kanz, battlewagons, nobz, burnaz, kommadoz, gretchin, koptaz and buggies have no idea what they are doing!

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Grovelin' Grot Rigger




Hiding behind his KFF

DarknessEternal wrote:The first solution to any Ork army problem is "you need more Boyz".

If that's not the answer, it's "you need more Lootas".

There's no step after that. Those two rules let Orks beat anything.

This isn't simply some ork-wise joke either, that really is all there needs to be to winning with orks.


What about the "I'm playing an apoc game tomorrow and can't hurt the baneblade!" Answer... STOMPA!

In the words of Archimedes, "Give me a long enough lever and a place to rest it... Or I will kill one hostage every hour!" 
   
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Glasgow, Scotland

Take more Stompas with Super Rokkits,Supa Gatlas,and Deth Cannons,and get as close as possible.Ram a TCCW up any one's rear end and it is going to hurt.

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Jidmah wrote:
DarknessEternal wrote:The first solution to any Ork army problem is "you need more Boyz".

If that's not the answer, it's "you need more Lootas".

There's no step after that. Those two rules let Orks beat anything.

This isn't simply some ork-wise joke either, that really is all there needs to be to winning with orks.


Wow, you're pure genius! I guess all those people fielding kanz, battlewagons, nobz, burnaz, kommadoz, gretchin, koptaz and buggies have no idea what they are doing!


quiat ya git.

doz fings is just fur da lolz an da browny pionts. da propa stompin gets done wif da Boyz an da propa dakka is done wif da Lootas.

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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
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Poole, Dorset

Just ram the with deth rolla equipped battlewagons.

   
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:Just ram the with deth rolla equipped battlewagons.


Coincidentally,this is one of the best ways to destroy a Monolith.

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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






No, it's not. Nobz squads, tank bustas and warbosses are much better at destroying monoliths than a deff rolla. Mostly due to the monolith not ignoring them on a 3+.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Courageous Space Marine Captain






Glasgow, Scotland

Assuming the Deth Rolla hits,that is ,D3 or there abouts?Str 10 hits.That is better in my opinion than Warbosses and Nobs with clawz.And,a Battlewagon is harder to destroy than a Nob or Busta,.

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Assuming that the deff rolla hits is the problem. If you have three battlewagons ramming a monolith, only one will actually hit it, and that one might even roll only one or two hits. That's close to 450 points needed to take down the monolith in one turn, doing nothing else. A warboss is no more than 150 points and each of the guaranteed six S10 attacks hits on a 4+, meaning you usually get three hits, just as many as three battlewagons, for a fraction of the point costs.

Tank bustas are even better, as they bring an additional four S9 attacks and might even immobilize the monolith with their 12 rokkits before the charge, and a full squad costs half the price of those weagons.

At last, a nobz squad for 450 points will bring three claws and thus 12 S9 hits, which still have a bigger chance to wreck a monolith than one out of three deff rollas hitting a skimmer.

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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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Courageous Space Marine Captain






Glasgow, Scotland

OK,point taken.

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Poole, Dorset

The point is you do each battlewagon in sequence, if the first one kills it the rest take on other targets, plus deff rolla battlewagons are always good where as tankbustas generally suck most of the time.


   
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Krazed Killa Kan




Claremont, ON

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:You can't count on hitting fast moving vehicles in CC, or for that matter(catching them)

Lootas IMO are your best bet, however that said. 6 Vendettas aren't that scary to orks 3xTwinlinked Lascannons times 6 ... meh not too scary

Scary to me would be the valks with rocket pods

Lootas, some rokkits, stuff of the sort and a bit of luck


Couldn't agree more. Unless you are running a BW list those lascannons will do some hurt. VS a kan wall or green tide that KFF will help out and big deal you lose 12 boys or so per turn.

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DE 2500 TS: 2500 2500  
   
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:The point is you do each battlewagon in sequence, if the first one kills it the rest take on other targets, plus deff rolla battlewagons are always good where as tankbustas generally suck most of the time.


Well, if all three monoliths are within 12" of your bw, sure. A warboss will still do better than a single wagon. "Tank bustas suck most of time" is pretty ignorant. "Lootaz, nobz and burnaz are better" is the true reason, they don't suck at all. They pretty much suffer the same problem as boomwagons and big gunz, being in a slot with lots of good stuff.

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
 
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