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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 05:53:34
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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Knights of the Cleansing Flame 1500
Castellan Garro Crowe 150
Draigo’s Wrath 405
Five Paladins
Apocatherapy
Incinerator
Daemon Hammer
Warding stave
All weapons master crafted
The Bearers of the Sacred Flame 265
Nine Purifiers
Incinerator
Incinerator
Force Halberd
Force Halberd
Daemon Hammer
Daemon Hammer
Force Halberd
Force Halberd
The Shining Storm 110
5 Grey Knights
Justicar with Force Falchions
The Scions of Titan 200
Five Terminators
Justicar
Daemon Hammer
Daemon Hammer
Force Halberd
Force Halberd
The Emperor’s Wrath 200
Nemesis Dreadknight
Nemesis Great-sword
Nemesis Heavy Psicannon
The Dread-Hunter 170
Nemesis Dreadknight
Nemesis Daemon Hammer
Nemesis Heavy Immolator
Three Word: FOR THE EMPEROR
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 08:04:14
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Excited Doom Diver
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I like the unit names.
I wouldn't run an apothecary. I made the mistake of building 3 of my paladins as apothecaries and you lose so few models to attacks than Feel No Pain can save for that I just don't see 15 points per model in a 5 man unit as being worth it. Not when you could just buy another palasin for 55 points and save 20.
I don't master-craft my poaladin weapons and I think to master-craft them all is a bit much. The hammer, yes. Psycannon, maybe. I'd be tempted to run your paladin squad with 2 psycannon. Incinerators are great but paladins want to shoot and assault, they don't want to risk wiping out enough of a unit that they can't assault.
I'd also add either psycannon or incinerators to your purifiers.
You also need a psycannon on your strike squad and either an incinerator or a psycannon on your terminators. Unlike paladins, I think an incinerator is okay on a terminator squad as they only get one and aren't as resilient in assault.
I'm a bit worried about everything being on foot too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 08:12:16
Subject: Re:What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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The Strike Squad was to fill up points. But I could kill the apocatherapy and get another Paladin and a psycannon for the purifiers. I could also kill the master crafted on some weapons and get a btter weapon. Do not have the points for transport. Crowe joins Purifiers. OWNAGE! Thanks for the comment about the names.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 09:10:13
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Dakka Veteran
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You really, really need to give your terminators, paladins and strike squad maximum heavy weapons allowed. And drop the apothecary. I'd throw a stave into the terminator and purifier squads too.
If I were you, I'd have a think about the various mission combinations and consider how your list will fare.
Everything bar the Purifiers and Crowe can deep strike and that might not be a bad option sometimes, though you run the combined risk of coming on piecemeal and taking casualties from scattering.
But basically I think the army is too slow once it's on the table. 7 kill points is a strong plus but the strike squad and the terminators will prove fairly easy pickings for most opposing armies.
If you really want to go all on foot then take Draigo instead of Crowe and go all deep-striking paladins and dreadknights. Not the most efficient, but probably pretty fun.
Otherwise if you want Crowe, I'd run more purifiers and get some vehicles, dropping the strikes and terminators (and maybe paladins too).
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Choose an army you can love, even when it loses - Phil Barker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/23 09:53:12
Subject: Re:What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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This is my revised army. I took transports for the purifiers, added another squad and killed the Termies and Strike squad. I made some changes to my Paladins and Purifiers.
Castellan Garro Crowe 150
Draigo’s Wrath 335
Five Paladins
Incinerator
Daemon Hammer (master crafted)
Warding stave
Psycannon (master crafted)
Force Falchions
The Bearers of the Sacred Flame 301
Ten Purifiers
Incinerator
Psycannon
3 force Halberds
2 Daemon Hammers
2 Pairs of Force Falchions
Warding Stave
The Emperors Will 40
Rhino
Knights of the Cleansing Flame 270
Nine Purifiers
Incinerator
Psycannon
Force Halberd
Force Halberd
Daemon Hammer
Daemon Hammer
Force Falchions
Nemesis Warding Stave
Nemesis Force Falchions
The Storm-herald 40
Rhino
The Dread-Hunter 170
Nemesis Dreadknight
Nemesis Daemon Hammer
Nemesis Heavy Immolator
The Emperor’s Wrath 195
Nemesis Dreadknight
Nemesis Greatsword
Heavy Psycannon
Three Words: FOR THE EMPEROR
Automatically Appended Next Post: P.S it is one point more!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 06:24:07
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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What do you think about this list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 15:00:21
Subject: Re:What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Been Around the Block
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DreadlordME! wrote:The Strike Squad was to fill up points. But I could kill the apocatherapy and get another Paladin and a psycannon for the purifiers. I could also kill the master crafted on some weapons and get a btter weapon. Do not have the points for transport. Crowe joins Purifiers. OWNAGE! Thanks for the comment about the names.
I noticed that you have Crowe joining Purifiers. Crowe can't join or be joined by any other unit so remember this when planning.
I personally think Falchions are only worth their points on models with Terminator Armor where buying another model is expensive but getting an extra attack is really what you wanted. Pre- FAQ this was a different story.
You might want to specify which equipment goes to your unit "leader" and if you plan on doing any Combat Squads. I tend to not put expensive equipment on my "leaders" because as they are the ones who take the Psychic tests, they are also the most likely to be destroyed on a bad roll. In that case, assuming you have that MC Daemon Hammer and MC Psycannon on that Paladin, you have just lost a lot of points to your own rolling and not to actual battle.
If you can manage the points, I like making my Dreadknight have both a Psycannon and Incinerator along with the Teleport Homer. This makes him very expensive but I have never lost my one Dreadknight. Since he is a Monstrous Creature, he can fire both weapons and the Heavy Incinerators rules allows for it to have a longer range (to match a bit with the Psycannon).
Other than that, I think its a good list. I didn't check your points costs as I don't have a codex with me and I don't know the size of the army you are shooting for. I play in the 1250-1500 point range.
Good Luck,
Flaim
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/05 06:10:20
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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Taking on 1500 Nurgle tommorow. Load of Plaugebearers and Kugath + Daemon Prince. How do you think this will do? PLEASE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/05 06:16:35
Subject: Re:What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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There's one thing I don't like and that just that in 1500pts your HQ and the Paladins are literally a third of your army. If someone gets lucky with a Demolisher cannon or something you're going to really be hurting. If it were me I'd take more troops and numbers. Even basic grey knights are great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/09 23:42:04
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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Boosted to 2000 and added these:
2000
Castellan Garro Crowe 150
Draigo’s Wrath 335
Five Paladins
Incinerator
Daemon Hammer (master crafted)
Warding stave
Psycannon (master crafted)
Force Falchions
The Bearers of the Sacred Flame 301
Ten Purifiers
Incinerator
Psycannon
3 force Halberds
2 Daemon Hammers
2 Pairs of Force Falchions
Warding Stave
The Emperors Will 40
Rhino
Knights of the Cleansing Flame 270
Nine Purifiers
Incinerator
Psycannon
Force Halberd
Force Halberd
Daemon Hammer
Daemon Hammer
Force Falchions
Nemesis Warding Stave
Nemesis Force Falchions
The Storm-herald 40
Rhino
Heralds of Justice 230
5 Terminators
2 Daemon Hammers
2 Falchions
Warding Stave
The Hunters of the Night 150
5 Interceptors
2 Daemon hammers
The Brother Entombed 120
Dreadnought
Twin-linked Heavy Bolter
The Dread-Hunter 170
Nemesis Dreadknight
Gatling Psilencer
Nemesis Heavy Immolator
the Emperor’s Wrath 195
Nemesis Dreadknight
Nemesis Greatsword
Heavy Psycannon
Three Words: FOR THE EMPEROR
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/11 05:21:15
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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Hello!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/11 14:38:19
Subject: Re:What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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As a fellow Gk player who uses a lot of paladins, I sympathize with you on the fact that you want them to be in your army.... but you really want to have transports for them honestly.. deepstriking is not the best way to get your paladins on the board: mishaps and getting shot to bits before being able to do any real damage in CC will just drain away a quarter of a point. I wouldn't suggest having 2 dreadknights; usually they get focused on the first turn, and usually they are going to be in cc with a deamon prince, or just burning out enemy infantry. I'd say one with a sword and a incinerator is enough especially for a nurgle army. Also, even if you are dealing with a deamon prince, there are force weapons: one of the reasons why GK are considered OP in some aspects...... Also, I would suggest making that dreadnought into a 2 TL autocannon with psybolt. It is a great to having some long range firepower so you could pop light tanks and some heavy infantry as well. Drop the terminators as well; though they sound good, they do die easily and as i've mentioned before, GK is not a deep striking army like BA. I find termis somewhat useless without a LR for them since they get focused somewhat and die way to easily.....
I would take a LR for the paladins with the leftover points from the dreadknight and the termies for your Paladin: get a golden moving bunker. Most players feel insecure with a LR on the board, and they will try to take that out first usually. I would also suggest getting some razorback with either TL las or las plas. They would provide the direly needed long-range firepower.
I would also suggest adding a librarian; Gk librarians are GREAT. They can buy much powers as they want and granting a unit(which could include him as well) Initiative10? With a librarian, and draigo with your paladins, you could potentially make them S8 monsters with draigo himself being S9 (1 might of titan + 3 hammerhand........) Even without draigo, they could be s 7 and that's pretty scary already.
I would rather take an awesome man who boosts your troops instead of a brooding little loner who taunts his enemies to hit him hard...... Also, i usually run my paladins with a banner plus all falchions; from the libby i get I 10(usually but not always.... that's just dice rolling luck), then I could get 4 attacks in minimum first and 5 if i charge.
Anyway, hope this long boring rant helped, and good luck to your game.
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I don't know why people complain about GK so much... It's just a game, and nobody complains about Mephiston... So why complain about Draigo? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/11 20:40:19
Subject: What do People think of my 1500 Grey Knights List
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
In Firenze kicking Templar arse.
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I have crowe and the purifiers ! So there is no going back for a Purifier army
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