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Lordhat wrote:Just because the codexes are the exactly the same, does not mean that that they're the same codex.
 
   
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No, as neither of them is a character. While the Swarmlord is listed as unique, nowhere is he listed as a character.
   
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Incorrect. Please read the definition of "unique", and note that "unique" means you are a Special Character.

OP: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Incorrect. Please read the definition of "unique", and note that "unique" means you are a Special Character.

OP: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.
swarm lord maybe as it is a special character. The hive tyrant however is just a MC ... no IC rule and no special charter rule
   
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The Swarmlord yes.The tyrant,no.

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@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.

(unless I've missed it )
   
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Jangustus wrote:@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.

(unless I've missed it )


How do you define what a Unique unit type is, without the Character section?

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puma713 wrote:How do you define what a Unique unit type is, without the Character section?


IIRC the page just before the army list in the Codex that has the diagram explaining a unit entry explains what "unique" means.

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Baragash remembers it right. In the codex it says that unique units may only be taken once, nothing about being characters or not. ( page 85 under unit types, tyranid codex).

However, that is a very good point Puma, I'll need to think on that.
   
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Jangustus wrote:@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.

(unless I've missed it )


and thats in the character section. The only place you find what unique means.

Yes, tey are characters.
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.


All the ability says is "Nominate a single enemy character..." So does that mean any IC/Unique, or does it have to be a named model?

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Any character,whether it is an IC,Unique,or an upgrade character.

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Okay, so I'll accept the Swarmlord is a character, but the Hive Tyrant isn't. As he is neither unique, an IC or an upgrade character.
   
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Didn't say he was.

Happyjew wrote:So does that mean any IC/Unique, or does it have to be a named model?

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