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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:52:37
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Can Deathleaper reduce the Ld value of these models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:56:04
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Cowboy Wannabe
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No, as neither of them is a character. While the Swarmlord is listed as unique, nowhere is he listed as a character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 13:12:30
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Incorrect. Please read the definition of "unique", and note that "unique" means you are a Special Character.
OP: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 14:05:57
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Proud Phantom Titan
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Incorrect. Please read the definition of "unique", and note that "unique" means you are a Special Character.
OP: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.
swarm lord maybe as it is a special character. The hive tyrant however is just a MC ... no IC rule and no special charter rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 14:27:08
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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The Swarmlord yes.The tyrant,no.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 15:25:39
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Cowboy Wannabe
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@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.
(unless I've missed it  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 16:07:59
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
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Jangustus wrote:@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.
(unless I've missed it  )
How do you define what a Unique unit type is, without the Character section?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 16:11:14
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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puma713 wrote:How do you define what a Unique unit type is, without the Character section?
IIRC the page just before the army list in the Codex that has the diagram explaining a unit entry explains what "unique" means.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 16:20:25
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Cowboy Wannabe
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Baragash remembers it right. In the codex it says that unique units may only be taken once, nothing about being characters or not. ( page 85 under unit types, tyranid codex).
However, that is a very good point Puma, I'll need to think on that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 16:49:05
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jangustus wrote:@ Nos, the rulebook says that special characters are unique, but does not say that all things that are unique are also special characters.
(unless I've missed it  )
and thats in the character section. The only place you find what unique means.
Yes, tey are characters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 17:38:39
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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nosferatu1001 wrote: Assuming that the leapers ability affects ANY character, and not just ICs, then yes the HT or Swarmlords stats can be affected.
All the ability says is "Nominate a single enemy character..." So does that mean any IC/Unique, or does it have to be a named model?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 17:40:42
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Any character,whether it is an IC,Unique,or an upgrade character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 18:31:32
Subject: Re:Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Cowboy Wannabe
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Okay, so I'll accept the Swarmlord is a character, but the Hive Tyrant isn't. As he is neither unique, an IC or an upgrade character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 20:55:12
Subject: Deathleaper + Tyrant/Swarmlord
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Didn't say he was.
Happyjew wrote:So does that mean any IC/Unique, or does it have to be a named model?
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