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Here is the scoop. I just picked up some Orks in a trade. (I have not got them yet but that wont stop from getting a list ready)

I am looking to build a 1500 point army the models I will have are as follows

180 boys all slugga some have only one arm but youll get the other arm (Most likely will switch some of these to shoota's ect..)
35 Loota Burners
battle wagon
trukk
big mek
3 aob warbosses
4 aob deffkoptas
15 aob nobz
10 nobz from boyz boxes(PK, Boss pole)
2 warbikers and 3 defkoptas converted to warbikers

I have not seen the Ork Codex yet so I do not know where to start. I have a store credit at a FLGS so I can pick up additional models as well. So what does a competitive 1500 point army look like?

Thanks Fellow Greenskinners!!!

Justin
aka
Primal

Wow, that's a lot of Orks. From the number of boyz that you have there, your best bet would probably be a Green Tide army. The idea of this is that you put so many models on the table that your opponent simply hasn't got enough firepower to deal with them all. This is simply an example and I don't have my Ork Codex on me now so if no-one else has written you a green tide list when I'm next on then I'll make a point to remember to do one for you.

Hope this helps.

Drown the enemy in Orks.. I like it! Hahaha

Thanks for the reply I appreciate any and all input I recieve.

That is essentially what it is .

I've written a green tide list using the models that you have, I was hoping to include all 180 Boyz but due to points limitations I was unable to do so, and the BattleWagon turned out a bit different to what I planned but here goes.

HQ

Big Mek: 85pts
-Kustom Force Field

Elites

10 Burna Boyz in a BattleWagon: 150pts

-BattleWagon: 165pts
--Kannon
--4 Big Shootas
--Deff Rolla
--Armour Plates
--Grot Riggers
--Red Paint Job
--Grabbin' Klaw

Troops

30 Slugga Boyz: 220pts
-Nob with
--Power Klaw
--Bosspole

30 Slugga Boyz: 220pts
-Nob with
--Power Klaw
--Bosspole

30 Slugga Boyz: 220pts
-Nob with
--Power Klaw
--Bosspole

30 Shoota Boyz: 220pts
-Nob with
--Power Klaw
--Bosspole

30 Shoota Boyz: 220pts
-Nob with
--Power Klaw
--Bosspole

Total: 1500pts

The plan for this list would be firstly to put the Big Mek in the Burna squad in the BattleWagon, as this makes the BattleWagon much harder to kill as it becomes obscured. The BattleWagon will then procede to drive up to things so that the burnas inside can unleash a huge number of flamer templates upon nearby units which should cause a lot of damage. The grabbin Klaw is there simply in case you run out of infantry to set fire to and need to make a nuisance of the BattleWagon.

The Boyz will simply march forward. The will absorb casualties but the shouldn't take enough so that they lose their effectiveness in combat, a well timed Waaagh! move should see them get into combat even more quickly and result in an even more devastating charge, and your opponent won't be able to deal with all of the greenskins shoved down their throat.

Hope this helps and I'm sure you'll have a lot of success with Green Tide in the future

Awesome! As soon as I get my Waaagh! I will give this a try and let you know how it goes. I may move up to 1750 if the guys around here will follow me up. Most all play at 1500.

I appreciate all your input!

Another option, lose the Battlewagon.

85 - Big Mek w/KFF
85 - Big Mek w/KFF

220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP

This takes you to 1490. You can add a couple Big Shootas or a Rokkit Launcha, or something to the meks.

A second Big Mek can be a converted Nob.....that's what I do, because I don't have cash floating around :p

Alternatively, you can use a Warboss, PK, Cybork.....95 points.....instead of a 2nd KFF. It's not as competitive, but I actually prefer to because it's more proper form a roleplaying perspective. Shoot, in older versions of the codex, your army REQUIRED a warboss.

Either way, have fun. Green is best!

Brother Taurinus wrote:Another option, lose the Battlewagon.

85 - Big Mek w/KFF
85 - Big Mek w/KFF

220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP

This takes you to 1490. You can add a couple Big Shootas or a Rokkit Launcha, or something to the meks.

A second Big Mek can be a converted Nob.....that's what I do, because I don't have cash floating around :p

Alternatively, you can use a Warboss, PK, Cybork.....95 points.....instead of a 2nd KFF. It's not as competitive, but I actually prefer to because it's more proper form a roleplaying perspective. Shoot, in older versions of the codex, your army REQUIRED a warboss.

Either way, have fun. Green is best!

Ah how I miss the old codex sometimes. I remember when grot slavers could carry rokkit launchas and choppas could give you a max armour save of 4+(take that termies!). I play something similar to the list above maybe drop one mob for a couple of small squads of lootas and lobbas to give da boyz some covering fire as they rush forward. As far as getting these models do what any proper ork would do and convert, convert, convert. Most of my army has plundered weapons and vehicles from a bunch of different armies. Thats whats great about orks and it doesn't even have to look very fancy cause it's orks so the more it looks like a rusted piece of crap then the more authentic it is .

How about experimenting with what you do have.

150 HQ1 Warboss, bike, PK, Cybork, Attack Squig

125 HQ2 Big Mek, KFF, PK, Cybork, 'Eavy Armour in Battle Wagon

225 Elite1 15 Lootas

225 Elite2 15 Lootas

294 Troop1 4 Nob Bikers, Cybork, Stikbombz, Painboy, PK and Shoota Schorcha, Big Choppa and Bosspole, Choppa and Waaagh! Banner

155 Troop2 18 Boyz and a Nob w/ PK for Battle Wagon

107 Troop3 11 Boyz and a Nob w/ PK for Trukk

215 Troops4-6 29 Boyz and a Nob w/ PK

60 Trukk, Red Paint, Grot Riggers, Ram (just for re-rolling terrain tests), Armour Plates, Troop3 Dedicated Transport

115 Fast Attak1 2 Deffkoptas, Twin-Linked Rokkits, 1 Buzzsaw

85 Fast Attak2 2 Deffkoptas, Twin-Linked Big Shootas, 1 BigBomm

200 Heavy Support 1 Battlewagon, Red paint, 2 Big shootas, Cannon, 2 Rokkits, Armour Plates, Deff Rolla

I cannot say that I would carry these numbers or kit out my vehicles like this, but playing the different options of your list will teach you more about what works and what you like than running 180 boyz. They are always an option, but it is a limited strategy.

@Ghengis Jon: First of all, love the handle. Second, love the idea of experimenting with different units like you suggested. Only problem is that the list is just under 2k....I think he was looking for 1500.

You have a great start doran ork army dude. Wish I had that many lootaz and ork boyz.

HQ
Warboss- 100
w/
PK
Eavy armour
Cybork body

Troops
Ork Boyz* 30- 225
w/
Nob
PK
Boss pole
Eavy armour (just for nob)

Ork Boyz* 30- 225
w/
Nob
PK
Boss pole
Eavy armour (just for nob)

Ork Boyz* 30- 225
w/
Nob
PK
Boss pole
Eavy armour (just for nob)

Ork Boyz* 30- 225
w/
Nob
PK
Boss pole
Eavy armour (just for nob)

Elites
Lootaz * 10- 150


Lootaz * 10- 150


Lootaz * 10- 150

Fast Attack
Deff kopta- 45
W/
Twin linked rokkitlauncha


152 models on the board

So you basically bull rush with the ork boys and warboss. Run every shooting phase until you're close enough to WAAAAGH!! Then you shoot light armour or monsterous creatures with the lootaz. Some people say run 2 15 man squads buts it's a little over kill plus 3 10 man squads can takes down three tanks or cut down three infantry squads.
You deffkopta with either turbo boost with scout or out flank the enemies side. He wont live but he's a suicide unit any way.

Yeah btw ghazzie is a great investment for the amounts of ork boyz you have.
You could replace the warboss and some lootaz for him. He is so worth it for the green tide and so amazingly OP with a 30 man ork boy squad

Try it out and see how you like it. It's fun to see your opponents face when he sees the stupid amount or fire power and infantry you have.

I wasn't really adding, just throwing some unit ideas out there.

85 - Big Mek w/KFF
85 - Big Mek w/KFF

220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP
220 - 30 Boyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP

I recommend dropping a boyz squad, making 2 squads 20 man, (bring those 2 in from reserve, so you deploy 90 and more come on later, as you probably wont be able to fit 130 on the board!), and bring 6 killa kanz to march down the flanks Give them all rokkits, giving you some BS3 AT Power for the army, as opposed to just a PK in each squad, those kanz are going to be extremely important if you come against a manticore one manticore will decimate you

Ahh, gotcha. Either way, you make a good point, GJ. Throw some units in there and see what you like. I'm fond of warbikes, myself, but only have 9 of them.

A lot of great input here. Thanks to all my fellow greenskinz for the ideas. I will be trying every build on here to see which suites me best :^)

Something about fielding a massive army of Orkz just puts a smile on my face!

HQ:90pts


(1)Warboss-60pts
Powerklaw-25pts
TwinLinked Shoota-5pts


Troops:1260pts


(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts

(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts

(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts

(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts

(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts

(30)Shoota Boyz-180pts
Nob w/ Bosspole-15pts
x3 Big Shootas-15pts


Elites:150pts


(10)Lootas-150pts




Can anyone say duck?

above list is nice but add a big mek with KFF its a MUST if your running your men on foot. also go with 3 rokkits in each squad of 30 strong. these lists lack high strnegth firepower

If you can get your hands on some Kans, you could run a Kan Wall army (one of my favorites). It's basically a bunch of boyz behind the Kans to get nice cover saves as they march forward. Give the Kans some Kustom Mega Blastas to have some anti-tank. If you put the Big Mek near the Kans, it'll make them harder to kill. I'll try to make a list for you.

I have to say that my experience of orks is as follows:

Shoota boyz all the way. Try and get a bunch of shootas and convert your aobr orks.

Lootas. Lots and lots of lootas.

I definitely want to take two units of 15 in my 2k point list. They're perfect for the look that your opponent gives you when you get 3 shots in ont turn out of them and roll 45 dice...

If you do run with some lootas make sure you screen them with some disposable orks to discourage flanking/deep striking attacks. Once someone has tasted loota power they tend to decide to take them out at all costs

If you have credit with a store, I'd definitely look at some killa kans and deff dredds. I'd use the kans to thin out opposing hordes or elite infantry and the deff dredd to hunt vehicles (if he doesn't get nuked on the way in)

I'd also look at getting some las cannons and cheap gun carriages along with a box of gretchen. Add in some jewellery wire for tubing and you have zzap gun batteries which can be alot of fun

Maybe try and get in some combat patrol games with what you have painted as I've found it's a good way to try out units and motivate you to turn the grey tide into a green tide =]

Lp

Here it is! Kan Wall for 1500! Didn't have room for the Lootas, though, and that's a real shame. What do you think?



If you're willing to go for 2000, you can add this:



And you'd still have 50 points to throw in somewhere.

PS: That's a lot of dakka you have there, mah boy. Like, every Boy mob gets 63 shots per turn. The lootas get from 10 to 30 shots (1D3 each) with their S7 AP4 Deffguns, from up to 48'' away! A whole lot of dakka indeed. And you can never have enough dakka.

IMO, WAY too many points invested in a Big Mek. Building them up is too expensive for Nob stats.

Also, Kan Walls normally use two big meks, to ensure they get
All the walkers obscured. It's not uncommon to see a couple dreads in as troops to boot.

For the Big Mek, i'd never take an attack squig without taking a power klaw... 15 points is far too expensive for basically another low str attack...

Two Big Meks with KFF's are 170 points. Shave off another 20 and you've got the some serious staying power for everyone.

I actually have a Kan Wall list posted, still tweaking it a bit though. It's 2500, it has a few Lootas, two Big Meks, two Dreads, nine Kans and a lot of dakka.