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indiana

I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on my homebrew Inquisitor and what alterations might need to be made to him in order to make him fair for a friendly game of 40k. Here is the unit entry I've made up.

WS: 5
BS: 4
S: 3
T: 3
W: 3
I: 4
A: 3
Ld: 10
Sv: 2+

Unit Type: Infantry

Wargear: Artificer Armor, Sacred Blade, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Psyk-Out Grenades, Psybolt Ammunition

Sacred Blade: Powered by the psychic will of the bearer, the Sacred Blade is a massive sword capable of slicing through multiple enemies in a single blow. The Sacred blade is a two-handed power weapon that adds +2 to the wielder's strength. Any unsaved wounds made with the Sacred blade confer an additional attack up to a maximum of +3 attacks, signifying the blade's continued path of destruction having torn through one enemy and into another with a single swing.

Special Rules: Independent Character, Stubborn, Counter Attack, On My Target!

On My Target!: After passing a leadership test, a unit under Inquisitor Mykahel's command may fire into a close combat that contains Inquisitor Mykahel. Any shots fired into the assault that have a to hit roll of 1 have hit Inquisitor Mykahel and his unit instead of the enemy. Any model that takes a wound from these shots may take an unmodified 5+ cover save. Unsaved wounds from these shots do not count towards who won combat.

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Basic Stat Line for an Inquisitor: 25 pts. (Taken from Grey Knight codex)
Stat modification of +1 WS: 10 pts. (Fair estimate?)
Artificer Armor: 15 pts. (Taken from Daemonhunter codex)
Psybolt Ammo: 5 pts. (Taken from Grey Knight codex)
Sacred Blade: 30 pts. (Based on Relic Blade from Space Marine codex. Also consider that a Daemonblade can have an automatic +3 Strength AND +3 Attacks for only 15 points)
Counter Attack: 5 pts. (Taken from Acrobatic ability given to Howling Banshees in the Eldar codex, which costs 5 pts.)
On My Target!: 10 pts. (No idea of a fair cost. Ability can only be used when Mykahel is in close combat and even then it has the potential to have negative effects. Please give your thoughts on this ability.)
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Total Points cost: 100 pts.

Consider that this is the same points cost given for Inquisitor Coteaz in the Grey Knight codex. All things considered, I think this seems to be a very fair estimate of a points cost for Inquisitor Mykahel. I'd love your input!

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TBH I actually like this. For what it does I think the points are pretty fair, it's simple for the most part and its simplicity is what makes it likable..

any bg on it?

   
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indiana

Loaded a picture of him. I haven't fully decided on a BG for him, though he is likely going to be somewhere between a radical and a puritan, not too far to either side.
Part of his background will likely include him having to hunt down his former master that has turned to chaos. At the very least, I know he is going to be of the Ordo Malleus.

"Men who destroy valuable Xenos discoveries for fear of the unknown are weak-minded and cowardly. Those who rely on such weapons are equally pathetic." -Inquisitor Mykahel

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I think that the sword blade is a little bit small in regards to the handle and guard, it probably wants to be about half as long again as it is, and a little wider to fit the size of the rest of it, but otherwise looks good

   
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If you made that yourself,



 
   
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indiana

Well, it's a conversion anyway. Here is a lits of what he is composed of.

Blood Angels Head
Scibor chest and shoulders (Templar style)
Warrior of Chaos legs (Warhammer Fantasy)
Space Wolves Frost Axe arms
Frost Axe x2 + dark Angel sword blade
Purity Seals
Bolt Pistol
Green Stuff Loincloth and Cape
Scibor Base

While making the weapon bigger always sounds good to me, when you actually look at the mini compared to other weapons the thing is already monstrously huge.
The main thing I want him to portray is a master of close combat with a huge sword. Having done some tests with his rules, he would kill off on average about 2 Space marines per assault phase. Sometimes its as high as 5, but its also common to only kill one. Removing the limit on additional attacks with his Sacred Blade doesn't make much of a difference.

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Rocketmike wrote:Well, it's a conversion anyway. Here is a lits of what he is composed of.

Blood Angels Head
Scibor chest and shoulders (Templar style)
Warrior of Chaos legs (Warhammer Fantasy)
Space Wolves Frost Axe arms
Frost Axe x2 + dark Angel sword blade
Purity Seals
Bolt Pistol
Green Stuff Loincloth and Cape
Scibor Base



Well man, I'm loving it.



 
   
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Oh, it's obvious it's already big compared to the model, the handle and guard etc is huge, and it's a big standard sword anyway - but yeah

And I don't know that removing the limit on attacks would hurt anything (other than possibly more models..).

   
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Added a painted picture of Inquisitor Mykahel. Haven't decided how to paint the blade yet. Thoughts?

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On my Target: Only on 1's? Seems very much in the Why not do the standard "Any hits are split 50/50 between target and your guys". This just seems to favor the Inquisitor way too much for what should be chaotic melee.

Now lets look at the most ridiculous part, your Sacred Sword. The Daemonblade you so aptly referenced, with those settings, isn't a power weapon. It's random. Now, look at your guys statline in combat. There's an Inquisitor who's very similar. Karamazov. He's 200 points.
Now he also gets a Multi Melta (-20?) and the orbital strike (You have fire on me, so maybe -10?). I think the toughness 5 is adequately compensated by your guy being able to jump out of vehicle and start chopping, as well as not being the size of a dread. Also, Karamazov only gets 3 attacks, not up to 6.

The absolute lowest I'd let you use that thing at would be 160, without the extra attacks. With, well 200 might be a good place to start looking

Edit: It appears the orbital strike is a bit more expensive than I thought. In that case, 150-180 might work, but he's still way too good in cc for 100 points.

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Add 40 pts for the possibility of 3 more attacks? In every test I've done with him he gets an average of 1 extra attack and rarely gets all 3. Even a permanent bonus of 3 attacks wouldn't cost an extra 40 pts. A daemonblade goes at initiative order and has the chance of being a force weapon and a permanent +3 attacks, or a force weapon that always wounds on 2+. Yes it has potential to suck, but it can also be amazing for only 15 pts. I'm essentially doubling the cost of a daemonblade to add one more ability to it. I might get rid of the "On my Target" all together. I just like it for having an extra unique rule for him, but when I wrote it I didnt realize there were already so many people with their own versions of it and wanting it to be a standard rule for the game.

Did some play tests against different squads of near equal value.

With Inquisitor Mykahel going head to head with these different units and not including any support fire using "On My Target" these are the results against:

Eldar Autarch: Beefed up the autarch with mandiblasters and a power sword putting him at 90 pts. The Autarch won 10 out of 10 times. Autarch had better WS, 5 Attacks, and a 4+ Invulnerable save.

5 Howling Banshees w/ Exarch & Executioner: Banshees won 7 of the 10 rounds. If Myk even survived the first round, he usually killed 2-3 Banshees.

5 Striking Scorpions w/ Exarch & Scorpion Claw: Scorpions won 9 out of 10 times with the Exarch usually insta-killing Mykahel with the claw after Myk killed a scorpion or two.

4 GK Purifiers: 4 out of 4 times they had a draw, killing each other in the same round of combat at the same initiative.

3 GK Purifiers w/ Halberds: Inquisitor won 5 out of 10. Seemed to be pretty fair back and forth with a 50/50 chance.

2 GK Terminators w/ Halberds: Inquisitor won 5 of 5 and usually took 2 wounds in the process.

2 GK Paladins: Paladins won 4 of 5 battles with the other being a draw. This is without throwing apothecary or standard bearer bonuses in the mix.

Karamazov: Karamazov won 6 of 10, losing 2 of them to Mykahel and the other 2 being a draw.

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indiana

Pretty much scrapped the idea of trying to use this character as is. I'll likely be using the model as a leader in a custom Space Marine chapter made using the Chapter Creator Rules being made up by Marik Law. Head on over for a glance if you are interested.

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