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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:41:19
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Frankly, I think this is a horrible idea.
much of the Expanded Universe Star Wars fluff is absolute garbage in my opinion. Not for all the same reasons. Some is badly written, some is horrible fluff(like Goto, who is a good writer but has no respect for the fluff), and most of it has Super Weapons popping up right and left like old Happy Meal toys in a kindergarten.
While GW should relax some of their policies, they should be no means do what Lucas Arts did. Otherwise, we may have lost Primarchs make Cameo appearences and then disappear or have main characters like Creed or Calgar die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 00:14:12
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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yeah, we would have renagades running around with the Other Talon of Horus, the Emperor's Sword, and Fulgrim's Codpiece. all eventually would be killed, and the relic weapon destroyed, in some rediclous fashion of course. Calgar would die due to a severe case of having a Moon dropped on his head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 01:28:43
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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While I enjoy pulp sci-fi and bad Anime shows as much as the next guy, I do appreciate that the BL has a fairly high standard of quality.
now you may wave Goto books in my face to counter my point. yeah, they were bad, but the BL has evicted Goto from writing any new books. He basically slipped in before they started needing quality control.
if anything, Goto made sure there was quality control on BL material. it was such a travesty that GW noticed. otherwise, we might have had our other Authors slide down the slippery slope of declining novel quality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 03:15:02
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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also, lots of the Star Wars material is also marketed to kinds under the age of 16. most of whom wouldn't give a flying feth about how good the writing is. they just want to hear how awsome the Jedi are or how Obi-wan actually did almost the same thing Anakan did(fell in love and left the Jedi order. only came back when she died  )
The BL books are mostly marketed to older readers as the content would most certaintly be entering R rated territory, partially because of the setting. Older readers want properly written books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 15:05:00
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I think their stores are a good frontage.
But they should go back to their earlier model of carrying other companies products.
Even if they started carrying board games or some other fantesy games on the side they could stay in business.
If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times, they need to have sales. "Army of the Month" sales where everything from that particular faction is 20% off. Have all new releases be 30% off for the first month and then go up to normal cost. Have a "Build a Battleforce" option on their website(kinda like the Lego system where you build your own custom set, but instead you customise a Battalion. maybe a minimum of 3 units and have the total value of the chosen boxs determine the savings. $100 gets you 10%, 200 gets you 20%....)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 15:16:28
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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the GW stores I have been to in the LA area seem to do ok as far as business goes.
The prices certaintly do drive a few people off. more deals would improve business.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 16:08:06
Subject: GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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mwnciboo wrote:Brother SRM wrote:The important thing is whether or not there would be a Warhammer 40k Imperial Holiday Special, starring the Emperor's lost son, Lumpicus.
Touche!!
So let me get this straight, if I close the GW Stores and do a Media Blitz and kids want Models Where are they gonna get them? Is that a serious point? I mean you are not trolling?
How about their FLGS? Online? From places like Hobby Craft? From Model shops? Yeah if closed GW shops, GW would go under because they have no other outlets 
the majority of GW's sales come from Online orders and 3rd party distrubuters like Wayland games and Hobby Town USA.
This fact makes the way GW treats them very odd, they can't sell things below GW's own prices and can't have sales that discount above a certain amount(the local Hobbytown used to have a Buy 2 get 1 free deal, but GW got all pissed. nows its just a 10% discount)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 16:45:37
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I think GW's main issue has been that they don't want 40k to get Hollywoodified. no big screen romances between Space marines and that cute SoB he rescued.
40k is better suited to animation, an Adult Anime series would be perfect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 17:03:24
Subject: Re:GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Thats true, you can't apply things that work in the UK to what works elsewhere in the world(especially considering that most of the market share is outside the UK)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/30 04:39:52
Subject: GW should follow LUCAS ARTS model?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Lynata wrote:Both franchises sport some horrible stories in their licensed fiction - the only difference is that Star Wars at least makes quite a big effort of bringing everything in line to create one consistent universe, whereas Games Workshop just kinda lets writers write their novels as "alternative worlds" without them actually being incorporated into the studio canon, safe for a few exceptions where they went "hey this isn't so bad".
But, in contrast to Star Wars, all of the different 40k books can actually exist side by side with each other and not step on each other's toes. this is due to the sheer scale of the 40k galaxy. the Star Wars galaxy feels positivly clostriphobic with all the hopping around the galaxy they do.
You can have an adventure start at the Jedi Temple, move to the outer rim, and back to the temple in a weeks time. the Galaxy just isn't that big.
in 40k, it can take weeks to get to the nearest planet.
Perfect example is Episode IV. they leave Tatooine and get to Alderan in a couple of hours. Alderan is almost half way accross the galaxy from Tatooine, at least it is now with the current maps.
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