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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:03:44
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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This came up between my friend and I the other day. Can you assault out of a vehicle the same turn it has moved (or at all)? For instance, if I move my trukk 6 inches, can the nobz inside assault out of the vehicle to a nearby enemy? Thanks! Any page references would be greatly appreciated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:06:32
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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You can assault out of a moving vehicle as long as it A. didn't move flat out and B. it is either open-topped or an assault vehicle. So the nobz can assault out of the trukk if it moved 6, up to 12 (13 with red paint job).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:09:48
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Movement has no bearing on whether or not an embarked unit can assault out of a transport. See Pg70 - Open Topped Transport Vehicles section
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:20:17
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Disarray - entirely incorrect, if the vehicle isnt either open topped or Assault.
If it is close topped, non assault, a unit cannot assault out of it if it moves, but can if it remained stationary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:28:55
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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13000posts.Congrats.
Nos is correct.A unit that disembarked from a vehicle that moved (or moved more than an inch,in this case of RPJ)cannot assault unless it was in an opentopped vehicle,or it had a rule,like assault vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:29:18
Subject: Re:Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Dakka Veteran
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Actually it does. If a vehicle doesn't move, a unit can disembark and charge regardless of the vehicle type.
Edit: Was in response to Disarray.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:30:45
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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That is what I just said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:32:02
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Stormin' Stompa
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I wonder if this is what the OP is really asking about.
Perhaps he is talking about a unit that did not disembark during the Movement Phase, assaulting in the Assault Phase, ie "assault out of a vehicle".
In which case the answer of course is; no, this is not allowed.
Just wondering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:35:17
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Dakka Veteran
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Deadshot wrote:That is what I just said.
A) My answer does not take away from your response.
B) I specified that it was in response to Disarray through an edit, so others will not think I'm addressing you.
C) The wonderful world of the Internet results in pages being loaded, real life occuring, and a poster responding to what appears to be the last post, despite several minutes (or, in our case, 23 seconds) passing by.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:35:38
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Steelmage99 wrote:I wonder if this is what the OP is really asking about.
Perhaps he is talking about a unit that did not disembark during the Movement Phase, assaulting in the Assault Phase, ie "assault out of a vehicle".
In which case the answer of course is; no, this is not allowed.
Just wondering.
I felt I had it up until this post. So if my unit is still in the vehicle as of the assault phase they cannot assault out of the vehicle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:39:39
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Stormin' Stompa
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That is correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:01:15
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Ok, but the unit is allowed to disembark after the vehicle has moved, and then assault during the assault phase, later that turn?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:13:31
Subject: Re:Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Only if it is an open-topped or assault vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:15:11
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Ok thanks. Just wanted to be clear
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:16:25
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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mazik765 wrote:Ok, but the unit is allowed to disembark after the vehicle has moved,
During the movement phase - that is the ONLY time you can embark or disembark from a vehicle (voluntarily, at least!)
mazik765 wrote: and then assault during the assault phase, later that turn?
... as long as the vehicle is Open Topped or has the Assault Vehicle rule, or another rule that does the same thing. So "no" if your vehicle has 'ard case, for example, as that makes the vehicle close topped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/14 12:11:56
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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This got dug up for Land Speeder storms and scouts.
So:
If the open-topped vehicle moved, they can disembark but not move, and assault in the assault phase.
If it doesn't move, they can disembark, move, and then assualt later in the turn.
This is for any open-topped, and for assault vehicles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/14 12:59:07
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Skinnereal wrote:
This is for any open-topped, and for assault vehicles?
That would be correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/15 10:25:41
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Skinnereal wrote:This got dug up for Land Speeder storms and scouts.
So:
If the open-topped vehicle moved, they can disembark but not move, and assault in the assault phase.
If it doesn't move, they can disembark, move, and then assualt later in the turn.
This is for any open-topped, and for assault vehicles?
And if it doesn't move, it works for any vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/15 10:30:17
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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don_mondo wrote:And if it doesn't move, it works for any vehicle.
You can assault from any vehicle? I'm not sure that's how it works.
I know you can move away from the vehicle when it's stopped, but not assault from a closed-topped, I thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/15 12:12:04
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Scuttling Genestealer
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If at the beginning of your turn, you disembark from a rhino (for example) before it moves, you may then assault during the assault phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/15 12:21:05
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Skinnereal wrote:don_mondo wrote:And if it doesn't move, it works for any vehicle.
You can assault from any vehicle? I'm not sure that's how it works.
I know you can move away from the vehicle when it's stopped, but not assault from a closed-topped, I thought.
Page 67 main rulebook second bullet point under disembarking says that if the vehicle doesn't move the passengers may disembark, may move normally, may shoot but count as moving, and may assault.
It's only if the vehicle moved first that passengers disembarking from a closed topped transport that is not as assault vehicle may not assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/15 12:23:13
Subject: Assaulting out of a moving vehicle?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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And Because the OP asked nicely. Pg67 BRB top left, Disembarking. ( For any vehicle)
And for your ork trukks, Pg70 BRB top left. (Open-topped)
EDIT: darn, ninja'd while looking up the pg's :p
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