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Terror Squads? Like squads that go in just to scare the living day lights out of their enemies or is that just for the Deathwatch and the Legion of the Damned? If so Would be reasonable to believe that I could use the legion of the damned as a terror squad basically.

I know prehersey they did. Most notably the Night Lords, Word Bearers, World Eaters and the alpha legion used them to scare worlds into submission.

And they still continue to do so?

Would the Imperium utilize this or would they just consider it heresy?

Because lets face it a 9 foot skeleton masked space marine with symbols of doom written all over the guy that appears out of nowhere would scare the hell out me. Especially if he utilizes harlequin face technology that becomes their enemies greatest fear. That would scare entire populations into submission. Of course that is use of xeno tech so that is heresy.

BTW grey knights don't count.


*also i will not make this a poll because people will just vote and go and not leave any constructive content the discussion.*

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Wow, this title made me expect something far more....private. Anyways, apparently in the SM codex, I remember reading that the salamander's appearance alone made many people surrender towards them, so yesh.

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Blitza da warboy wrote:Wow, this title made me expect something far more....private. Anyways, apparently in the SM codex, I remember reading that the salamander's appearance alone made many people surrender towards them, so yesh.

If it is by me, i will not ask that type of question.
But yeah i remember it very well too.

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The space marines ARE terror squads.

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AustonT wrote:The space marines ARE terror squads.

I understand that. But do they have dedicated terror squads. That are specifically aimed to lower the enemies morale into thinking that they are doomed.

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I belive some chapters would, due to the fact that not all follow the codex. So if covert ops were S.O.P as well as uncoventinal warfare Im sure they would. Hope it helps, you should make an army on that plot could be cool.

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porkchop806 wrote:I belive some chapters would, due to the fact that not all follow the codex. So if covert ops were S.O.P as well as uncoventinal warfare Im sure they would. Hope it helps, you should make an army on that plot could be cool.

Already have. XD Just seeing if special squad based tactics such as terror squads would make sense to have. And are not heretical.

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Ultrafool wrote:The Flesh Tearers are a Terror train. Imperial forces run hide as the Flesh Tearers come to HELP THEM.

Thats true. very true plus their colors are the don't with me or else i will rip your spine from your limp body.

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Space Marines are terror weapons.

This quote sums it up nicely;

Unknown wrote:
The enemies of the Emperor fear many things.

They fear discovery, defeat, despair and death.

Yet there is one thing they fear above all others.

They fear the wrath of the Space Marines!


Everything about an Astartes sparks shear terror in lesser creatures. Their tactics, weapons, appearance, etc.

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Ironsight wrote:Space Marines are terror weapons.

This quote sums it up nicely;

Unknown wrote:
The enemies of the Emperor fear many things.

They fear discovery, defeat, despair and death.

Yet there is one thing they fear above all others.

They fear the wrath of the Space Marines!


Everything about an Astartes sparks shear terror in lesser creatures. Their tactics, weapons, appearance, etc.

Yes but my question is still not answerered they are not single individual terror squads. That invoke fear into the morale and lowers the enemies morale.

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Your question was answered. That it's not the answer you wanted is irrelevant.

The Night Lords, Alpha Legion, etc did not have "terror squads" by the by. They had normal squads that used terror tactics as one of the many tools in their arsenal.

There's a difference.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:Your question was answered. That it's not the answer you wanted is irrelevant.

The Night Lords, Alpha Legion, etc did not have "terror squads" by the by. They had normal squads that used terror tactics as one of the many tools in their arsenal.

There's a difference.

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Kanluwen wrote:Your question was answered. That it's not the answer you wanted is irrelevant.

The Night Lords, Alpha Legion, etc did not have "terror squads" by the by. They had normal squads that used terror tactics as one of the many tools in their arsenal.

There's a difference.

I know that has been answered, but no specifically designed squads?

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Gathering the Informations.

Asherian Command wrote:
I know that has been answered, but no specifically designed squads?
'
Nope.

The absolute closest we have is Shrike and his Wing. That, however, is a specific circumstance as Shrike and his Wing are operating inside of Ork territory and exploiting Ork psychology to cause a huge effect beyond the numbers they have at their disposal.
   
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Asherian Command wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Your question was answered. That it's not the answer you wanted is irrelevant.

The Night Lords, Alpha Legion, etc did not have "terror squads" by the by. They had normal squads that used terror tactics as one of the many tools in their arsenal.

There's a difference.

I know that has been answered, but no specifically designed squads?


As someone already said - all space marines are specifically designed for it. Your army is it. It's what you want already.
   
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During the period of the Great Crusade, the Marines did in fact have terror squads, they were called the Night Lords.

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Also note how the example chapters that used terror as a tactic all tured to chaos


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The Mad Tanker wrote:Also note how the example chapters that used terror as a tactic all tured to chaos

No, they didn't, not wholly. Some parts that have split off and forgotten their original plans, but not the entire Legions or Chapters.
   
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Asherian Command wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:Your question was answered. That it's not the answer you wanted is irrelevant.

The Night Lords, Alpha Legion, etc did not have "terror squads" by the by. They had normal squads that used terror tactics as one of the many tools in their arsenal.

There's a difference.

I know that has been answered, but no specifically designed squads?


Well a quick look over C:SM would have given you the answer to the question, no they do not have 'terror squads'.

iproxtaco wrote:
The Mad Tanker wrote:Also note how the example chapters that used terror as a tactic all tured to chaos

No, they didn't, not wholly. Some parts that have split off and forgotten their original plans, but not the entire Legions or Chapters.


That is really just you being nit-picky with semantics, his answer still holds true as all the legions listed did infact turn to chaos (with the word chapter, representing the whole or the organisation, not the individuals).

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Gathering the Informations.

Raven Guard, Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Salamanders, and more used 'terror squads' as well--they're still Loyalists.

This whole concept is ridiculously offkilter, considering the topic at hand. The Astartes, period, are terror weapons. To have terror squads of terror weapons is like painting the Death Star with a skullface on it to make it extra terrifying +5.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:Raven Guard, Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Salamanders, and more used 'terror squads' as well--they're still Loyalists.

This whole concept is ridiculously offkilter, considering the topic at hand. The Astartes, period, are terror weapons. To have terror squads of terror weapons is like painting the Death Star with a skullface on it to make it extra terrifying +5.

That's not a giant flying space skull...

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I'll say it again Space Marines ARE Terror squads, all of them. Not just some, not just the Legions that moved to Chaos. Terror is just another tactic in the Codex.

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BluntmanDC wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
The Mad Tanker wrote:Also note how the example chapters that used terror as a tactic all tured to chaos

No, they didn't, not wholly. Some parts that have split off and forgotten their original plans, but not the entire Legions or Chapters.


That is really just you being nit-picky with semantics, his answer still holds true as all the legions listed did infact turn to chaos (with the word chapter, representing the whole or the organisation, not the individuals).

That's the point you CAN'T generalize, especially with Legions like the Night Lords and the Alpha Legion which are so split up, with each individual Warband having different values and purposes. In fact, if you were to generalize the Night Lords at all, it would have to be that they abhor Chaos in all its forms, but you simply can't as there are obvious exceptions.
   
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Every space marine squad is a terror squad.

They are the Emperor's Angels of Death. That is their expressed purpose.

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This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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My orks are just shaking in their Astartes skin booties... Not.

Can't say that either my DE or my Necrons are quaking at the very thought of a Space Marine either...

A lot of this is propaganda. SM scare humans, and might put a bad scare in a lone grot, but no ork Waaagh just went home sheepishly because a SM cocked his bolter.


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The Legion of the Damned are the closest thing to a terror squad AFAIK.
Chaplains are pretty fething scary too.

 
   
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Leonus Cohol wrote:The Legion of the Damned are the closest thing to a terror squad AFAIK.
Chaplains are pretty fething scary too.

Thank you for finally answering my question.

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Once you get past the SM fanclub..

Legion of the Damned is pretty much it. Even they aren't really a terror unit so much as a pop up out of nowhere and turn the tide of the battle while being creepy unit.

Marines aren't subtle as a rule. They generally would much prefer fighting in 'honorable' combat and gunning you down than scaring you.

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