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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/05 23:08:16
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Mississauga Ontario
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As a modelling/painting project while still being functional on the table top was curious if something along these lines would work? Bearing in mind I havent actually played in an edition or 3 I hope I dont completely lack a grasp of the current play environment.
Termi Sorc: CF, Familiar, Icon, Warptime&Wind of Chaos (warptime lets you re-roll wind yes?)
4 Termis + Champ: 2 CF, 2 CM, HF, Land Raider
4 Termis + Champ: 2 CF, 2 CM, HF, Land Raider
10 CSM: Flamer, Melta, Rhino
10 CSM: Flamer, Melta, Rhino
10 CSM: Flamer, Melta, Rhino
10 CSM: Flamer, Melta, Rhino
10 Summoned Lesser Daemons
Leaves 75 Points to play with for additional upgrades or an obliterator or something. Although I doubt the last option would be very effictive having just one.
Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome, Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/05 23:29:36
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Winged Kroot Vulture
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I would suggest moving to dedicated anti-infantry and anti-tank squads, that always seems better for me, in my limited experience.
Move it to 2 squads /w 2 meltas and 2 squads with 2 flamers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 06:11:01
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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You are correct about Warptime allowing you to re-roll Wind of Chaos. Just remember that you must re-roll ALL of the results...not just the failures.
I agree with Cottonjaw, definitely stack your special weapons in one squad or you'll often find yourself wasting shots.
You might want to try dropping something for some long range AT. Right now it looks like that is your biggest short coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 12:20:38
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Hmm, having recently delved in lesser daemons, I don't see any personal icons on your units. With only the icon on the sorceror they don't have any flexibility in where they deploy save within 6" of him. Maybe one each on the termie champs to give you some other options in case the wizard goes down?
Edited for not reading the OP properly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 12:47:39
Subject: Re:2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Wow....I've been playing Warptime wrong all this time.....
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Warriors of Chaos: W15, L2, D0
CSM 6th Edition: W19, L6, D3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 15:05:03
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Tower of Power
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The specials in the squads should always be the same weapons. So double meltas or flamers. This gives you double chances for taking that tank out or burning more infantry. The rest isn't too bad, but I would deep strike those Terminators using icons and invest the rest of the points for some long range fire power.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 15:48:08
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Winged Kroot Vulture
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Is that 100% definitely the way warptime is played? Because it was ruled the opposite way @ the 'Ard Boyz tournament I attended.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/06 17:31:13
Subject: 2000 Point CSM mildly themed All Comers
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Regular Dakkanaut
13 inches from the table edge
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No. Warptime says, "The power is used at the start of any player's turn. If successful, the psyker may re-roll all rolls to hit and rolls to wound for the entirety of that player's turn." The "all rolls" meaning shooting and assault, as the spell permits. Pay attention to the "may". The intended use of the spell is to reroll any failed dice. Not forcing the player to reroll all of them (even non fails). Otherwise the spell would note, "and must keep the final results". Here is a breakdown by rulelawyers. http://www.theruleslawyers.com/2009/09/warptime-and-re-rolls/ Even GW glances over the spell while talking about it's benefit to Ahriman: "Warp Time primarily increases Ahriman's close-combat abilities, as it provides a healthy supply of rerolls and all but guarantees that each of the sorcerer's Attacks will claim a victim." ( http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&categoryId=600005§ion=&aId=1200006) The wording would be very different if he were re-rolling all dice. Far from being healthy or guaranteeing.
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