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Decrepit Dakkanaut





UK

From what's been said there will probably be a single chance to add in money whenever the PM opens (but no guarantees)

Adam has basically said he doesn't want to go down the road of repeatedly allowing it as he did previously (probably because they company needed the money)

(but I could very well see similar happening again..... fingers crossed for it as long as it doesn't come with a massive overspend this time as I hope to be able to do just the same)

 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






SoCal, USA!

I would assume ONE opportunity to add, simply because KD:M has to collect shipping, so I assume they will let people add expansions & pinups.

I wouldn't assume pledge upgrades to Satan level.

   
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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Loopstah wrote:
 Pacific wrote:
So you mean to say the two women in leather underwear aren't how Satan actually looks?

hmmm....


You mean living tongues and penis underwear?

Depends on which one.

I'd be surprised if Poots hadn't either seen this card from the Marseille tarot, or whatever inspired it (uh, historical NSFW, I guess):
Spoiler:


Dudes on the reigns seem pretty chilled.

Not sure what advantages would be bestowed by having knee-eyes!

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Greece

So

Allright, getting official here: Core Games & Upgrade Packs will not be available as separate add ons. Under no circumstance will we combine pledges in the post campaign pledge manager. Unless it appears on the add-on list, or we announce that something is an add-on in an update, it cannot be added as an add-on. I apologize If I have caused any confusion in the past. I reserve the right to change my mind as the campaign continues.


Does that answer the questions?
   
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I guess?

What's an 'add-on' right now, and...what isn't?

EDIT:

Add On:

1st Hero $35
Gambler's Chest $100
Pinup Male Twilight $15
Pinup Male Dung Beetle Dancer $15
Piinup Female Dung Beetle Dancer $15
Extra Hardcover Rulebook $40
Dragon King Expansion $75
Nightmare Ram Expansion $40
Pinup Dung Beetle Knight $15
Pinup Dung Ball $15
Dung Beetle Knight Expansion $30
Screaming God Expansion $50
Pinup Screaming God Armor $15
Lion Knight Expansion $35
Role Survivors $25
Satan $25
Frogdog Expansion $50
Piup Gold Smoke Knight $15

I'd guess ALL of the original expansions will eventually make it into the 'add on' menu before the end too...

...I hope!

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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao





Gosport, UK

Didn't he say earlier on that the core game would be an add on for $250?
   
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Maybe?

It doesn't look to be on the main page 'add on' list right now though...
   
Made in ie
Fixture of Dakka






It's understandable this way he knows exactly how many core games have to be ordered as soon as the KS ends and get them done straight away rather than waiting for a PM to close.
   
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Well, yes, but he could also have a one month PM and accomplish the same thing, if he really wanted to!

But yeah, might be for the best that way...

EDIT:

Will the 'existing expansions' ship in 2017 as well?

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Fixture of Dakka






He seems to be aiming to get them shipped as close to wave 1 as possible. He has said that Core games will ship on their own as the box is to big and heavy to add anything else to it so what ever happens it will be 2 lots of shipping and 2 sets of fees.

“
Also Formally added a wave 2 for current expansions. I am being conservative with the estimate. MY HOPE is that they also ship summer 2017.

Dec 9 2016 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






SoCal, USA!

Adam Poots, Kingdom Death wrote:Allright, getting official here: Core Games & Upgrade Packs will not be available as separate add ons. Under no circumstance will we combine pledges in the post campaign pledge manager. Unless it appears on the add-on list, or we announce that something is an add-on in an update, it cannot be added as an add-on. I apologize If I have caused any confusion in the past. I reserve the right to change my mind as the campaign continues.


That seems totally reasonable. He needs control over the KS that he didn't have in the first go. Especially as he obviously intends to push Core 1.5 and Upgrade Packs out ASAP. He's obviously aware that shipping is going to be a mess, so keeping it simple (i.e. 1 item per label) makes it smoother.

   
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Everett, WA

 Alpharius wrote:
Will the 'existing expansions' ship in 2017 as well?

I suppose it depends on how much work is needed to bring them up to date with 1.5. Some won't need anything while others may need a book or cards reworked.


 
   
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Olympia, WA

It's fine (I guess) if he wants to shaft us on shipping, but I don't want to create a throwaway KS account just to upgrade my backup copy.

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Also Formally added a wave 2 for current expansions. I am being conservative with the estimate. MY HOPE is that they also ship summer 2017.

Dec 9 2016 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5



.....I am actually ok with having the upgrade pack as an add-on. Not so much the core game though. I am just trying to figure out how useful that would really be?

Dec 8 2016 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5

Allright I will think about it some more. For now, until its formally added to the add on menu or advanced in an update. It's not available.

Dec 8 2016 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5

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Next update, introducing an artist who presumably makes loads of small cottages or is a robot living in one

Gambler's Chest Roll #10, Changelog Update Art Innovations, New Pinup and a teaser, teaser update!

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Yah!!!

Male Pinups
I wanted to take a moment to sincerely thank the artists whom have worked on Male Pinups for Kingdom Death. Pinup artwork can be a very personal thing for artists and it takes a lot of creative courage to be comfortable presenting it to new fans. I am tremendously thankful, humbled and very proud that we are able to add these pieces of fantastic artwork to our collective whole.
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The Male Pinup Screaming God Armor, was created by the super talented HamletMachine. HamletMachine's style is utterly fantastic and in my humble opinion, in the genre it is peerless, expressive, and powerful.
If you enjoy HamletMachine's work you need to go read / buy everything. HamletMachine is an independent, self-published, crazy hard working artist. Check out the Starfighter comic here. WARNING NSFW NSFW I MEAN IT!!
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Directly @HamletMachine,
Thank you. Thanks so much for giving us a part of yourself. It's fething awesome and you need to know how much I cherish it. On behalf of Anna and myself, getting to work with you amidst the swirling chaos this kickstarter has been, was / is amazing! When I am done with this update, I am going to print that badass babe and slap him right on my wall!!



Woo! Now unto our changelog update!


For our new players, you might not understand how huge these changes are since you haven't played the original version! After a lot of play-testing, all I can say is that the changes are awesome. Your new experiences will be better, having been built on a mountain of dead survivors before it! lol

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Greece

I have to handed it to him, he said he will hire proper artists that will make proper male pinups and he did.

The Narrative armours look better and better in my opinion.
   
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NC

The narrative armors looks better and better, and the base variety is making me so happy. I don't think those bugs are part of the base, so even better.
   
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Those revised Art innovations are super good.
   
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Infiltrating Broodlord




Lake County, Illinois

I'm glad there's still nothing I really want in the gambler's chest, and I hope it stays that way. The only thing I really care about is the "advanced" rule book, so hopefully that will someday be available separately. But I can certainly live without it. No way it's worth $100.
   
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I'm kind of with you there!

I do want that 'advanced rulebook' too though, so hopefully there's another way to get that, eventually?
   
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Lake County, Illinois

I sent a message asking if the advanced rules would ever be available separately, and here is the reply from Adam:

No, its all like one big crazy integrated set!


That's disappointing. There isn't really enough game content to be worth anywhere near $100, and I don't want all the narrative miniatures that I mostly won't use. Maybe the'll end up adding more game content before the end to give it more in game value for the price.
   
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California the Southern

My thought on the Gambler's box is that we may see all these narrative sculpts eventually replacing the core box armor sets in some future printing of the game.

Think about it- the pinups and plastic kits require a lot less parts, take up a lot less space, and require much less plastic to produce. You also aren't left with leftover unused pieces if you go the narrative route rather than kits with all kinds of bonus parts.

If I remember correctly, outside of the 4 starters all the other armor sets are on their own sprues, completely unrelated to the monsters that are required to play.

Plus I think once we've got a male and female version of all the core armor sets, we may end up seeing something more gameplay related in that box.

Then again Adam has said the armor kits are a big part of the game and aren't going anywhere, and he's said they would show up separately, so who knows? Maybe we'll see "ancient" sets just like Frogdog has upgraded versions of his armor?

Also, the front page is finally cleaned up and updated!


Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
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Gambler's Chest Contents (so far)-
1xAdvanced Rulebook (Includes Philosophy of Death)
12xMiniatures
2xPromo Gear Cards
3xRare Gear Cards
2xGear Cards
1xArt Card
1xSecret Fighting Art
2xFighting Arts
1xAdvanced Fighting Art
4xPhilosophy Cards
1xSettlement Event
2xAdvanced Disorders
1xHunt Event

Plus the rest of the reveals which will most assuredly come with more gear/events/fighting arts. At what point will the Gambler's box become worth it to you?

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Maryland

Albino Squirrel wrote:
I sent a message asking if the advanced rules would ever be available separately, and here is the reply from Adam:

No, its all like one big crazy integrated set!


That's disappointing. There isn't really enough game content to be worth anywhere near $100, and I don't want all the narrative miniatures that I mostly won't use. Maybe the'll end up adding more game content before the end to give it more in game value for the price.

Are we sure he didn't mean that the advanced rules wouldn't be available separately during the Kickstarter? That way, they don't have to set aside some books for the box set and some for a la carte purchases. The general theme of this campaign has been "less chaos," so it makes sense to keep it contained for now and sell an "advanced rules" book by itself later at retail.

Then again, maybe not. The Philosophy of Death system is probably the biggest change to the game, and I don't recall seeing any philosophy cards outside of the Gambler's Box. Maybe it's best to think of it as the "Advanced Rules Expansion," like the standard monster-centric expansions.

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Infiltrating Broodlord




Lake County, Illinois

I asked if it would ever be available separately.
   
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Can someone with a better memory than me help me out?

Where does the Green Knight armor kit reside?

And, who do you have to kill to make it?

The Flower Knight and...?

Thanks!
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

IIRC the green knight armour is something for which you are required to kill no less than three different knights: Lion, Dungbeetle and Flower. Then you need to get lucky on the drops and hope that they drop the required tokens, which can then be forged into the suit of armour, sword and shield.

edit.

Green Faulds (waist): Needs a couple Dung Beetle Knight Resources, a Flower Knight resource, and Gormite. You need to have the Choreia (Forbidden Dance consequence, iirc) to build it.

Griswaldo (sword): You need a rare gorm item, gormite, a rare gear drop from the Dung Beetle Knight, and one iron. You need to have a survivor with a specific Flower Knight secret fighting art and you need a late game gorm innovation to build it.

Fetorsaurus (shield): You need the beacon shield, a Dung Beetle Knight resource, a Flower Knight Resource, and on of the harder to get gorm potions. You also need the Blacksmith settlement location.

Green Helm: Need a Dung Beetle Knight resource, a rare Dung Beetle Knight resource, and a specific Knight Badge. Also need to have a specific legendary monster on your quarry list.

Green Gloves (hands): Need a specific piece of gear from the Manhunter expansion, a piece of iron, and a rare Gorm resource. Also need a specific advanced core game innovation and a specific Gorm innovation to craft.

Green Plate (chest): Need a piece of rare gear from the Lion Knight, two iron, three leather, and a specific dung beetle knight resource. Need a Gorm innovation to craft.

Green Boots (feet): Need an iron, a specific knight badge, a piece of hard to get gear from the Dung Beetle Knight expansion, and a bunch of bone. Also need the forbidden dance innovation.

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Greece

Em if you just want the rule book the lantern upgrade is the pledge you want, why bother with the gambler?
   
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 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Em if you just want the rule book the lantern upgrade is the pledge you want, why bother with the gambler?

They want the Advanced Rulebook which is only available in the Gambler box.

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Portland

 Alpharius wrote:
Can someone with a better memory than me help me out?

Where does the Green Knight armor kit reside?

And, who do you have to kill to make it?

The Flower Knight and...?

Thanks!

It's its own $25 (IIRC) kit, takes the 3 knights, a gorm special resource, and a spider innovation IIRC.

Personally, I think it's a silly goal, never heard of anyone getting it without abusing the NG+ mechanic, and it's only theoretically possible with basically perfect luck in one run.

If you're considering getting it, I'd recommend against. It's basically like the lantern armor turned up to 11-- crazy bonuses that just aren't worth it for the hoops. Way better than lantern, but not worth it IMHO.


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