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Playing a game today and I had one IC standing next to my rhino. A group of Paladins congalined up with one model in B2B, the rest wrapped around the rhino. So first round of assault, the paly in b2b assault IC as well as two others behind him. the remaining two assault the rhino. No deaths from that turn. Next turn, same thing, so three models assault the IC and two assault the vehicle. No deaths on either side. Third round of combat, Crowe joins the combat at initiative 10, kills the IC. The question now is that at initiative 6 can the paladins choose to assault the vehicle?

My thought was that before any blows are struck, you have to declare which models are assaulting which models. My friends contention is that you dont have to declare which model you are directing your attacks at until that initiative arises. So ...

1) Can you wait until the initiative of the model in question before deciding which model to direct your attacks against?

2) Since it was a multiassault on an IC and vehicle... you can't be locked in combat with a vehicle. So, since the palys were locked in combat with the IC at the beginning of the assault phase... The IC is killed by Crowe at I10. The palys are no longer locked in CC with the IC since he is dead, can they now assault the vehicle? They were not locked in CC with the vehicle (as you can't be locked in CC with a vehicle) at the beginning of the assault phase?

jeremesh wrote:Playing a game today and I had one IC standing next to my rhino. A group of Paladins congalined up with one model in B2B, the rest wrapped around the rhino. So first round of assault, the paly in b2b assault IC as well as two others behind him. the remaining two assault the rhino. No deaths from that turn. Next turn, same thing, so three models assault the IC and two assault the vehicle. No deaths on either side. Third round of combat, Crowe joins the combat at initiative 10, kills the IC. The question now is that at initiative 6 can the paladins choose to assault the vehicle?

Only if they were in B2B with the rhino or withing 2" of a model in the same unit in B2B before blows were struck.

My thought was that before any blows are struck, you have to declare which models are assaulting which models. My friends contention is that you dont have to declare which model you are directing your attacks at until that initiative arises. So ...

No. You figure out which targets are engaged at the beginning of combat. You decide what targets you chose to attack when your initiative step comes up (page 41 under 'Attacking')

1) Can you wait until the initiative of the model in question before deciding which model to direct your attacks against?

Well technically you must wait. There is no can.

2) Since it was a multiassault on an IC and vehicle... you can't be locked in combat with a vehicle. So, since the palys were locked in combat with the IC at the beginning of the assault phase... The IC is killed by Crowe at I10. The palys are no longer locked in CC with the IC since he is dead, can they now assault the vehicle? They were not locked in CC with the vehicle (as you can't be locked in CC with a vehicle) at the beginning of the assault phase?

Even if they aren't 'locked' into combat with a vehicle, but they could have still been 'engaged' (determined at the start of the assault before any blows are struck) with the vehicle which is all that matters.


Sorry, but your opponent was correct.

You would allocate at the beginning of the iniative round,

So crowe elects to attack the IC at I10 and he kills him
The paladins then choose to allocate attacks against the rhino at I6

(page 41 under 'Attacking')

There it is. Thanks, we looked but couldn't find that.

Sorry, but your opponent was correct.

No apology necessary. I'm looking to understand the rules, not be right :-)

Any Paladin *only* in contact with the IC would be forced to attack the IC, and therefore would "lose" attacks if the IC is killed before they get their chance to strike.

If models have a choice of what to attack, you only decide when your initiative step arrives