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i was bored and decided to make a named necron lord. i plan to make a model of of this. these are the proposed rules:

Arcerak Lord of Shadows ws=5 bs=5 s=7 t=5 w=4 i=4 a=5 ld=10 sv= 2+, 4++ 400 points

wargear: Doomsday scythe(described below), Greater Ressurection orb=18" +1 to we'll be back, veil of darkness, phylactery

Special rules:
The Shadows= all light is snuffed out. images of unspeakable horror frighten all but the bravest into submission. usable once per game. the opponent fights in the night fighting rules(exceptions apply). all units make a ld. test -2. if they fail they are pinned.

mind over mind= instead of shooting, the lord projects his mind into that of the enemy. each rolls a d6 and adds ld. If the lord wins he controls that unit for that turn. 24"

wraithflight, fearless, necron,

onset of terror= all enemies within 12" must take a -1 ld. test. exceptions apply and does not work if the lord is in close combat.

unnatural darkness=use night fighting rules when shooting at Arcerak and necrons within 12" of him.

Doomsday scythe=warscythe that can be fired as= range=24" s= 6 ap=3 type= assault 2, blast, gauss


please tell me what you think, be gentle.

also, if anyone is interested i have made a background for him.

Hm, I think that 400 points is a bit too much. I would also like to see the background.

The Nightbringer’s Chosen
Before the Necrons were born of the Necrontyr, The Nightbringer found there was a lord whose force slaughtered in the most delectable way. Ambush. Using vestments that seemed to steal the very light itself from the air and teleportation, they would strike upon the Old Ones when they were most vulnerable. The horror this spawned in the Old Ones was most tasteful to the C’tan. It brought him such great joy that he rewarded Arcerak with three gifts. A sigil that could summon The Nightbringer itself, the power to turn light to darkness and his force was given sight so that darkness was as day. With these gifts in hand, the lord wrought destruction on an even greater scale. He brought down entire planets of the Old Ones in mere hours.
Rebels
When the time came for the transference to undying metal, The Lord of Shadows (as the necrontyr had come to call him) refused the transference. He stated that the new bodies would take away from the splendor of victory (and the delights afterward). The Nightbringer made a deal. He said he would seal away the bodies of the Shadow Force so that they could return to them when they so desired. The Shadow Force agreed to this. The Nightbringer planned to destroy the bodies once the Lord’s and his force’s minds had deteriorated. He did not count on one thing though. The Lord of Shadow had an extremely strong mind, even stronger thanks to the Nightbringer’s gifts. His mind was so strong it kept his entire force’s minds from deteriorating. Enraged by this the Nightbringer tried to destroy the bodies.
When he reached the chamber the bodies were kept in, he found the entire Shadow Force waiting for him. They had been tipped off by a C’tan that seemed almost too happy to deliver the news.
The force would’ve been a small challenge, but with the Lord of Shadows backing them up they were a threat. Choosing to deal with them later the Nightbringer left. Angered by this betrayal, the Lord set two primary goals for his force. They were: 1) Find a way back into their original bodies and 2) Destroy the C’tan.
The Mission
They set about the destruction of every C’tan they could find. They would ambush the C’tan and when they left their corporeal bodies destroy the devices that allowed them to transfer into the physical world. This, along with the Deceiver’s tricks, led to the C’tan downfall. They tried numerous times to destroy the Nightbringer, but it had become stronger through absorbing the essences of other C’tan. They could also never find its tomb. The scientists they had assigned to bringing them back into their bodies worked tirelessly. By the time of slumber they had made it where when one of them left their metal body its mind went into its original form for a brief amount of time. While his force slept, the Lord stayed ever vigil. He could not let his force’s minds deteriorate. His body guard stayed with him during this long time. They, with minds with no where near the scale of his, were sometimes driven to insanity. Only his presence kept them from falling into pits of true insanity and becoming like the flayed ones.
Now
The Harbingers of Shadow have risen again to fight the Nightbringer, and the ever treacherous Deceiver (who the Lord seems to have developed a personal apathy for).

While most Necrons bodies just look metal or have tarnished remnants of their former factions, the Harbingers of Shadows have opted for a more practical approach. They have covered their metal skin with a black covering that was designed for them to blend in with the shadows. Also, having not deteriorated mentally they have kept the cloaks they wore as necrontyr. This is one way to differentiate them from the rest of the Necrons. There is 1 better way. Being cut off from the rest of the Necrons, they had to find an alternate power source. The design of their weapons is the same, but the green rods that characterized them and lended them their power have been replaced by a similar source. They appear of the same quality, but while the rods of the other Necrons give off a green light, the rods of the Harbingers give off a red light.

Some say they have made an uneasy truce with the Eldar. But who knows. Maybe there is another reason the Outsider left this galaxy.

sorry if its a bit long. what would you suggest for the points?

I'd suggest waiting 5 days for the new codex. <3 Rumor has it, 7 Special Characters.

Normally i would but ive always wanted to make a lord and i think ill be able to use him as one of the other lords. or use him as he is in friendly games. this is the basis.

and whered you get 5 days?

Hammer18 wrote:Normally i would but ive always wanted to make a lord and i think ill be able to use him as one of the other lords. or use him as he is in friendly games. this is the basis.

and whered you get 5 days?

Interesting, kinda like a wraith-boss.

5 days, since the rumor is they're announcing it at Games Day UK, which is on the 25th (Sunday), just like they did DE last year.

how long did it take after the annoucements for the codex and models to start being able to be bought?

Hammer18 wrote:how long did it take after the annoucements for the codex and models to start being able to be bought?

No clue, but I doubt it'll be longer than 2 - 3 weeks.

cool. the guys at my the shop will be so happy when this happens. ill pass judgement when i see the codex.

this is a drawing of what the final product will look like.

Hammer18 wrote:cool. the guys at my the shop will be so happy when this happens. ill pass judgement when i see the codex.

It's a Ward-dex. We all know what's gonna happen. Horrid fluff, but better-than-average rules, making them Tier 1 or high Tier 2. Get pumped.

ward dex? oh. you mean matt ward? ive heard his name cursed a few time over fluff.

Hammer18 wrote:ward dex?

You know how Blood Angels, SM, and Grey Knights are the main tourney armies lately? Matt Ward was the one who wrote them. You'll find a lot of hate threads (and for good reasons), but I think Grey Templar summed him up best in this thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/397459.page

and i was hoping for an increase in good necron fluff. oh well

Hm, maybe 100-200 points.

Ok, I have no idea what is offered in the Necron codex so this critique is coming from somebody looking at this completely from an opponent's perspective.

I would lower the cost, but only if you made some of these changes to his rules:

The Shadows= All light is snuffed out. Images of unspeakable horror frighten all but the bravest into submission. Usable once per game. The opponent fights in the night fighting rules(exceptions apply). All units make a ld. test -2 (Fearless Models do not take this test). If they fail they count as being pinned.

It seems much more fair to have the units frozen in terror rather than making them run away. If this was used first turn, you could essentially make almost an entire army flee off the map before they even get to move. Making them frozen with fear (pinning) would still be powerful.

Doomsday scythe= warscythe that can be fired as: range=24" s= 6 ap=2 type= assault 2, blast, gauss

That weapon would kill off a 5 man squad of wraithguard (175 pts) in a single turn. It would be killing terminators like crazy as well. I would either take away its blast templates or its AP. As it is that just sounds way too strong.

Maybe a weapon that powerfull is ok for 400 points, but the ability to make most of an army flee off the table definitely needs looked at.

Ogryn, Thats the point value for a reg. necron lord. this guy would beat a reg to the ground. i did a test run and he was even with the nightbringer but could screw with infantry more. thats where i got the points.

Rocketmike, i based the weapon off of a apocalypse necron weapon. wat about ap 4? also i like the pinning thing. kinda fits better with the description anyway.

AP 4 would work. Enough to make mid-armoured enemies afraid, but not enough to be lambasting terminators. Though AP 3 would also be alright.

And yeah, making them flee? You do realize that the way you have that worded means they won't necessarily stop, right? Forget turn 1, that could potentially make an army run off a table from turn 3 on! Pinning would definitely work better for that.

this is my 1st making rules. bit hard to word it right. just look at the current codexes.

ap3 it is

AP 3 is better. Still kills anything save a Pheonix Lord in my sickly little eldar army but I try to stay in cover with them anyway. But yeah, glad you like the pinning idea.

I'm pretty new to making up unique characters and rules myself, but I think I do a pretty good job of finding ways to balance things out imho.

necrons were kinda made to kill eldar anyway. i really dont know why, but i always forget about pinning.

Hammer18 wrote:necrons were kinda made to kill eldar anyway. i really dont know why, but i always forget about pinning.

I think everything was made to kill Eldar
I like the concept you have for the model. I'll be interested to see how it comes out.

Hopefully good.

With regards to his weapon. i agree it is a bit OP. Especially seeing as it is not only a blast but also Assault 2.

Is it meant to be a blast of etheric energy? In that case i would make it EITHER an assault OR a blast weapon, not both.

A single large blast with Heavy 1 could be good. High Str (5 or 6) and Ap5 would work for a big blast of energy and still be viable, give the character Relentless so the can still move and fire it.

Alternativly make it S6 AP3 and Assault 3/4. that way it is still lethal but not as OP.

Yea, assault 2, Blast still has me kinda worried. assault 1, blast wouldnt bother me quite so much.

Especially if it was blast and not Large Blast. Small blast is liek a plasma cannon, good luck hitting more than 2 models with that.

He has it listed as small blast. For the listed price though, I suppose it isn't too bad. It's just that it is in addition to a number of other pretty awesome abilities already.

ive already made it ap3. Hes supposed to be an overlord of an entire necron force. i cant just give him a staff of light. and as he said it would only at the most kill 4 mayb six people. thats not taking into account scatter.

Nice idea. Perhaps write some special rules for the force? Also the lord should have a rule which means he cannot be included in a force with a C'tan.

I have some. not very much. 1 rule i was gonna give him:

eternal hatred: if Arcerak passes within 18" of a c'tan all his moves(movement, shooting, assault) must be used against it.

it doesnt say he cant but you wouldnt want the two most expensive things in your army killing each other.


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Some shadow force rules:
flayed ones,and pariahs are not allowed in this army. they do not believe in condemning the other races to their curse.
the flayed ones never came to be in this force. Arcerak made sure of this.

All destroyer platforms have been replaced by wraith tales. the Sf are mainly ambush. the platforms do not fit.

Wraiths can take veil for 60 points. also max= 10. can assault after teleportation.

Monolith are only used when needed. must be over 1750. also all monoliths deep strike in.

i want to do something for their weapons. like a special qaulity since they have to use a different power source.
i also have 2 new units i made

Marik Law's chapter creator has some ideas for custom space marines and their chapters but also has some good stuff for coming up with unique weapons both for heroes and regular units. If you want to make your units have unique weapons, his pdf might help with an appropriate points adjustment.