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hey everyone i am looking to start my first fantasy army, but i need some pointers, looking into the WoC and i am wonder what is a good route to take when starting, i am a 40k player by trade but i am looking to expand my gaming. thanks for any help you can give!

A good place to start is the battalian box. Really WoC is a MSU army, unless you do a marauder based army. Its really hard to suggest where to start unless you mention what gods you tend to prefer. Tzeentch and Khorne tend to be the favorite as their marks are the most powerful. Nurgle is decent, though not "competitive". Slaanesh (unless on spawns/giants) is pretty much useless.

Are you doing a theme army? Are you doing a WAAC army? What kinds of things interest you? Its hard to give suggestions without some data.

Well i really like Nurgle, i have a 40k Nurgle army and i kinda wanna continue in that regard, this is not going to be tournament worthy list, more so to have fun with

Hey there so down below is a link it is a over view of the a large portion of the woc book.
It does not have everything you need (its not the army book) but it is meant to be helpful to new players.

I nurgle is not the most effective this edition sad to say but they have some nasty spells.
I suggest Running festus with a large blcok of marauders the mark is up to you and a lvl4 death sorcerer its super funny. Lvl4 reduces a units str or t and then festus hits it with curse and they all go away good times.

But ya check out the link


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Also the battalion is a great way to start has a bit of everything that you will use at some point.
Hounds knights warriors and marauders its pretty much good times.

GreyTauKnight wrote:Well i really like Nurgle, i have a 40k Nurgle army and i kinda wanna continue in that regard, this is not going to be tournament worthy list, more so to have fun with

cowpow16 wrote:nurgle is not the most effective this edition sad to say but they have some nasty spells

I say get your Nurgle on anyway, GTK Warriors regardless of mark are quite smashy, and the spell lore is really legit.

- Salvage

Oh for sure sorry I didnt see the part about non competitive thing

you're going to want to start with the battle box. As far as other units to add on - get another box of warriors, marauders, and chosen. As far as lords and rares, go with the what you like - if you want Nurgle, get the nurgle lord. For rares, get what you want to play with - the spawns are great and cheap, the hellcannon has its place too, the giant and shaggoth have their places as well.

I've got a Tzeentch and Slaanesh army that is fun to play. When I go heavy Slaanesh I like the ogres and hell cannon. My Tzeentch is chosen and spawn.

ok so i will buy the box then after that a nurgle lord, how are marauders? i see alot of lists use them( from reading around, and i am guessing that WoC are huge in Melee fighting?

WoC are pretty much exclusively CC. Even our sorcerers are designed to do damage and have saves in combat (As we are one of the few sorcerers with armor). Our only ranged is pretty much either marauder horseman (which are better suited imo with flails and mark of khorne for warmachine hunting; 10 str5 attacks and 10 str4 attacks for 115 points is nice), or the hell cannon. However, we excel in close combat.

Marauders are good, but you need alot of them. But being 4 points each, it works out well. They typically either work as tz with shield or khorne with GW. I'd probably do GW or Flails with Nurgle. Your gonna need anywhere from 40-50 marauders total if you want to field them. But as this is the same typical cost (point wise) as your typical group of 18 warriors, it is pretty nice.

Honestly, my experiences with the spawns are less then stellar. They tend to be killed without a chance to strike back (damn initiative 1), and the randomness make them hard to control. I'd stay away from them.

If you go nurgle may I suggest festus. If you d go with festus a lvl 4 shadow sorcerer is good times. If your opponent isn't careful then ou can melt some of his units haha.

ok so, i will need to a battalion box, warriors box, like 3 marauders, lord and sorcerer to start, what about mounted units? please excuse all the questions i am just trying to get the best out look on what i need to buy, so i dont waste money on models i dont need

So a good starting point is the battalion for sure.
A 40 or 50 man marauder unit is a nice thing to have ever since I used 1 I always include 1 in my army.
Warriors 18 man units of warriors is pretty much where its at. Either wish shields or shields and halberds.
Knights not as amazing as they were last edition but hitting a unit in the flank or rear with them deal does hurt since those guys have 2 attacks at str 5 each (magical weapons too).
Hounds are good re directors.

I suggest a bsb hero on foot unless most of your army is cav.
A lord usually does better mounted as in a jugger or a steed and run with things that move fast.

Sorcerer lord Either on foot or if you are worried about him miscasting and exploding go with a tz lord on disc, he flies behind the enemy lines and casts spells from there and if he miscasts you wont kill your own units.

Possibly 2 battalions is not a bad idea I mean you get 24 warriors , 40 Marauders, 10 knights and 20 hounds. YOu may not need all the hounds but if you are running a mounted lord 7 or 8 knights is not a bad idea.

Also what points will you be playing at?

Just something to think about.

would a mounted lord and sorcerer be good in a mounted unit? i just like the mounted units looks and would like to use them, yea they might not be the greatest as you said but im sure they have their uses.


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oh and about 2k points for now

Knights are great if you are not a power gamer.
Just don't charge head on with knights hit flanks and rears.

If you mount you sorcerer I strongly suggest a disc since he can then cast without worry of being restricted to certain spells. That and better Los and more mobile if he's by himself.

Maybe a unit of knights or 2 a big block of marauders 1 or 2 units of warriors 2 or 3 units of 5 hounds. That should leave room for a bsb and a sorcerer for sure.
That would be 2 battalions and a couple of characters.

now when you say a big block you meant 20-30? and does the BSB come with the boxes that you know?

By big block I mean 40+ guys personally I prefer 50 but that's just me.

The bsb is a exalted hero you can model him out of a warrior orjust get a hero model and make sure people can tell the difference between him and rank and file.

understood, thank you for all the advise it has been quite helpful!

Personaly, i quite like a unit of Nurgle warriors (for -1 bs/ws) with halberds and shields, with banner of rage, i know its expensive, but if you paint them well, and convert the banner a bit, it can look legendary! Also you get the frenzy of Khorne without being able to lose it =)

Grazts on choosing WoC, here is wjat you should get for a decent start:
1 Battalion
3 boxes of Marauders
1 box of warriors
Hell cannon
Lord of your own choosing
Extaled hero

Banner of rage give the front guys an extra attack and usually that means you get 5 or 6 extra attacks. But you also loose some control of them since they can be bated and with the over run it's not ideal I'd say flaming banner it's cheap and effective.

A battalion is not a bad idea, personally I use all the models that come in there.

I don't think you need another 48 marauders to make a total of 68.

Warriors can't go wrong using them if you need a lot just get a second battalion. You can always find a use for the hounds. That and all the knights lances can be converted to be halberds on warriors.

A hero on foot as bsb is a good idea he is right in the thick of it with the re rolls. He is also a pretty tough opponent in challenges and infantry.

Lords you can't really go wrong they may have to take a certain mark but ya go with what you like. If you can't decide get several to just try out.

Not going to push the hellcannon but it is quite powerful and awesome to useight be worth investing in or scratch building. Personally I like the model but cool conversions are sweet as well.