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Slaughtermaster: hellheart - 300
Bruiser: BSB, great weapon, heavy armour, dragonhide banner - 195
Firebelly: great weapon - 129


10 Ogres: full command, additional hand weapon - 345
11 Ironguts: full command - 508


4 Leadbelchers - 172
4 Leadbelchers - 172
3 Mournfang cav: Full command, heavy armour, great weapons - 249
3 Mournfang cav: Full command, heavy armour, Ironfists - 240


Thundertusk - 250
Stonehorn - 250
Ironblaster - 170


2,980 Total.


New to WHFB and wanted to get started somewhere, seen a few games and read some reps from dakka to give me a rough idea.
All in all, i need the list to be semi-competative.
Dont want anything OTT cheesey, but dont want an auto loss army either.
About the only changes ive been thinking of so far is to swap the horn for another tusk as they just seem to have a much wider use in the game, or just swap it for another ironblaster.

So, quick few ideas and Q's i could do with help on please.

1: Gutmagic - New to this, but in most books it states that spells are a random selection, does this apply or do butcher/SM's know all of them?

2: Is a slaughter master really any good? The tyrant seemed pretty useless to me so i wanted something to fill the gap as a lord, failing that, should i just take a normal butcher instead?

3: More of a tactics idea really, but does anyone use a gnoblar screen with trappers?

4: Sabertusks, not too sure how to take them really.
Seem like a nice quick unit, but the low LD really does stunt the usefulness.



So, i think thats it really, its over to you dakka, help me please

Any help please?