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Before everyone tells me to "Get more Boyz!!" I am already set against it, my goal for this army is to take them out of the picture completely by having only Nobz and Grotz.

I Play mostly against BA

HQ:

Warboss: BP, Pk, Eavy Armor, Cybork, Squig - 120

Big Mek: KFF - 85

Elites:

9 Nobz: Painboy, 3 PK, 5 Big Choppas(BC), 4 Eavy - 330

Battlewagon: Kannon, 4 BS, GR, Ard Case - 140

8 Nobz: 3 PK, 5 BC, 4 Eavy - 280

Battlewagon: Deff Rolla, GR, Armor Plates, Ard Case, BS - 145

3 Meganobz: Kombi-Burna x 2 - 130

Battlewagon: Kannon, 3 BS, GR, Ard Case - 135

Troops:

8 Nobz: 2 PK, 6 BC, Waaagh Banner, 5 Eavy - 285

Battlewagon: Kannon, 4 BS, Armor Plates

10 Grotz: Runtherd - 40

10 Grotz: Runtherd - 40

Fast Attack:

3 Warbuggies: TL Rokkits x 3 - 115

3 Warbuggies: TL Rokkits x 3 - 115

Heavy Support:

3 Kannons: Runtherd - 70

Battle Wagon: Zzap Gun, Rokkits x 3, BS, GR - 145

Battle Wagon: Killkannon, BS, Ard Case, Armor Plates, GR



Here is "Da Cunnin Plan" All the BWs with Nob payloads will get in a line (So the only armor available to enemy fire is the AV 14 front). One of the BWs in the middle of the line will of course have the KFF so they all get a 4+. Also, the two squads of rokkit buggies will cluster on the two sides of the line, giving the weaker AV 12 sides a 4+ also ( The KFF doesnt quite reach the sides).

The other two BWs are my Dakkawagons, and they will just shoot everything they can, and they will have the grotz in them, to safely put them on objectives. While the three Kannons take out any vehicles or infantry squads that get to my rear.

Right off the bat, since you're spending so much on nobz, take the time to change their equipment so that you can use wound allocation to your advantage.

I'm not so sure that a BW line will be that effective vs. BA, but it depends on your opponents, really.

Those Battlewagons are completely fethed up. They shouldn't have a kannon as the Battlewagons want to move as fast as possible to the front lines to get into assault, the Wagons do not want to hang about to shoot. Also putting 'ard cases on the Battlewagons is just crazyness, it stops the Wagon been open topped which means your Orks cannot assault out!

All the Nobz units should have Painboy and cybork bodies, not 'eavy armour. S8+ weapons will just blow them away other wise.

Also Buggies will not give 4+ cover to Battlewagons at all. Buggies wouldn't even cover the front tyre as they are that low. The only way a Buggy would cover the side of a Battlewagon if it's Trukk size.

As mentioned above, take off the kannons and ard case from the BW's which are transporting your troops. You want to be moving as fast as possible towards your enemies and you won't have much chance to shoot all those guns on the wagons. Also you only need one big shoota on each and each BW should have a deffrolla instead. Of cousre the nobz need to be diversified as well for would allocation as has been said.

Personally I prefer to use looted wagon boomguns over the killkannons on the BW's, however if you are gonna go with killkannon BW's then adding armor plates, ard case and 2x rokkits for them both should be enough.

Your battlewagons don't really need more than one weapon. You've got so many points in extras, look into shaving off that excess and getting deffrollas for them instead. What are they going to do after they unload their passengers? That's where the deffrolla comes in.

OK, here is the revised list.

HQ:

Warboss: BP, Pk, Eavy Armor, Cybork, Squig - 120

Big Mek: KFF - 85

Elites:

9 Nobz: Painboy, 3 PK, 5 Big Choppas(BC), 4 Eavy - 330

Battlewagon: Deff Rolla, Armor Plates, BS - 125

8 Nobz: 3 PK, 5 BC, 4 Eavy - 280

Battlewagon: Deff Rolla, GR, Armor Plates, Ard Case, BS - 145

3 Meganobz: Kombi-Burna x 2 - 130

Battlewagon: Kannon, 3 BS, GR, Ard Case - 135

Troops:

8 Nobz: 2 PK, 6 BC, Waaagh Banner, 5 Eavy - 285

Battlewagon: Deff Rolla, BS, Armor Plates - 125

10 Grotz: Runtherd - 40

10 Grotz: Runtherd - 40

Fast Attack:

2 Warbuggies: TL Rokkits x 2 - 70

2 Warbuggies: TL Rokkits x 2 - 70

Deff Kopta: TL Rokkits, Buzz Saw

Heavy Support:

3 Kannons: Runtherd - 70

Battle Wagon: Zzap Gun, Rokkits x 3, BS, GR - 145

Battle Wagon: Killkannon, BS, Ard Case, Armor Plates, GR

And, i have 55 points left over that i dont know what to do with.

So, i am actually running the Meganobz as my troop choice, and their BW still has all the guns as before, because it is not advancing with the line, it breaks off and drops them on whatever objective they need to take. The Deff Kopta is a suicide anti-tank coming in with scout, and the buggies just zoom around trying to hit any side armor they can. Other than that, same story.


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Quick fix: The BW with Ard Case, does not have that, and those 15 points are included in the 55.

You will want all your ammo runts for your kannons.

Otherwise good luck.

Thats a good idea, i think i will use the remaining 55 points on the three ammo runts, and another meganob with kombi flamer.