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Baron Sathonyx

Haemonculus - webway portal, venom blade

Haemonculus - webway portal

2x Grotesques - x3

2x Raider

3x Wracks - x5, liquifier

3x Wyches - x9, haywire grenades

3x Scourges - x5, x2 haywire blasters

3x Talos Pain Enginge - chain flails, twin-linked haywire blaster

Total: 1849

Thoughts?

I like it alot only question is whats the Baron doing? He doesn't fit in with the style of list you wrote. Kudos overall tho, fun list

Over 9000! wrote:I like it alot only question is whats the Baron doing? He doesn't fit in with the style of list you wrote. Kudos overall tho, fun list

The baron is 105 points spent to have a better chance to go first. As an added bonus, he can help with pain token farming, or just rush off madly from the webway portal into something. He could also hang with a set of scourges to give them a bit more resilience in assault - not that it would make much of a difference, and they probably wouldn't assault much anyway.

I think you might be better off with Ravagers instead of Taloi (no idea how the plural works) and then go for Beastmaster packs instead of Scourges. You could even just take one big pack and put the Baron with them to give them the 3+ cover in terrain.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I think you might be better off with Ravagers instead of Taloi (no idea how the plural works) and then go for Beastmaster packs instead of Scourges. You could even just take one big pack and put the Baron with them to give them the 3+ cover in terrain.

The Beastmaster packs are a possibility, but the Ravagers are hard to swing. With only 5 vehicles on the field, I feel it would literally be throwing points away. Any competent player would cripple them instantly, and then I would have even less anti-tank available. This list is based off the list a friend used against me with mixed success recently, except he had only one raider and an additional two venoms. I thought I'd keep it to the absolute minimum vehicles - just the two raiders to see my Haemonculi to the halfway point on the first turn. It's no secret that they'll be the first to go - an opponent wouldn't have any choice in target! The beastmaster packs are an interesting idea, but I'm less concerned with giving the baron a ride than I am about the haywire blasters the scourges bring. The automatic glancing hit is what this list depends on, without it I don't think it would have a chance against mech. Even as it is it's shaky, but hey, it's a fun, fluffy list.

I think the weakness is that both the Wyches and the Wracks are a little too specialized for WWP. By the time you start having stuff pour out of the portal, you want it to start hurting stuff. Here's a couple of thoughts;

1. Get Agonisers on the Wyches, they need to be able to hurt stuff the assault that has armor, because they might be all you have to attack armor.

2. If you want the Scourges, I'd take h.lances. For DSing or moving on normally I find haywires better, but with the ability to drop out the portal basically 30" from your board edge, then 12" movement out and 9" melta range - you have a 21" threat radius from basically in the face of the enemy deployment zone - also known as...basically everywhere. That increases the h.lance viability - and WWP *needs* things that rip open transports.

3. I don't like the Grots as portal escorts simply because it will weaken you in DoW - at least one portal carrier should be paired with a Troop option to give you more adaptability options there.

4. Baron can join with Wyches functionally, then split off to attack vehicles if you wish - though I'd probably want to get him some Beasts, Beasts can be pretty awesome coming out of a portal with grenades on them.

5. The Wracks are pretty weaksauce in this list, what are they really good for? If they come out before you have stuff to pop vehicles they're useless. I'd rather have Wyches or Beasts as both of those have options versus mech if you need it.