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Ignoring the fact that they are Daemon Primarchs now, Which Traitor Primarchs do you think would have the best chance of returning to serve the Imperium. (let's say that turning back would strip them of their daemon status)

None. There's absolutely no way that the Traitor Primarchs would ever be accepted back into the fold.

What coolyo said, they are all WAY beyond redemption...
"oh hey, I know I tried to kill the emperor that one time on terra, but um......can I hang out with you guys, Abbadon is annoying...."

And it is even considering the would want to come back. Something more remote than impossible.

What gain could the Primarchs get if they went back to the imperium? they would loose ALL their daemonic gifts, seems to be a worse deal than staying with chaos

I just read OP, and say: "Not in a gazillion years."


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bombboy1252 wrote:What gain could the Primarchs get if they went back to the imperium? they would loose ALL their daemonic gifts, seems to be a worse deal than staying with chaos

Not to mention that they are not the same men they were before the Daemonhood. Fulgrim is trapped in his own body while the rest lost their minds ( except Magnus, but he is to pissed to go back ).

In a weird 40k fantasy world (you know inside the already existing fantasy). If Magnus and the Emperor had a chat via the warp and somehow reconciled, Big E could strip Magnus of His Demonic "gifts", and he attempted to return. He would have to face a basically brainwashed IoM military to reach the Comotose E and try to get him up and awake. At which point the High Lords would probably kill them both.
It drives me Bananas but I swear in those dark years before the Internet I read in an actual book possibly the BRB that the HLT had a chance to revive Big E and CHOSE not to.

Fulgrim is the only possibility.

The other ones have ten thousand years of atrocities under their belts. Fulgrim does not.

Of course, it would take some kind of potency to expel his daemon, and someone great enough to forgive him. The only being that fits both criteria is semi-comatose on the Golden Throne.

AustonT wrote:In a weird 40k fantasy world (you know inside the already existing fantasy). If Magnus and the Emperor had a chat via the warp and somehow reconciled, Big E could strip Magnus of His Demonic "gifts", and he attempted to return. He would have to face a basically brainwashed IoM military to reach the Comotose E and try to get him up and awake. At which point the High Lords would probably kill them both.
It drives me Bananas but I swear in those dark years before the Internet I read in an actual book possibly the BRB that the HLT had a chance to revive Big E and CHOSE not to.

I'm with you on this. Magnus is really the only one I see with a chance to return. His turning to chaos was more a very unfortunate string of events than him wishing to go against the Emperor. He would also be able to sit on the Golden Throne in place of the Emperor once he dies(has his plug pulled).

Fulgrim is weak of will/mind and probably thoroughly insane now.

Fulgim as he finally put rowboat grilyman into stasis

AustonT wrote:In a weird 40k fantasy world (you know inside the already existing fantasy). If Magnus and the Emperor had a chat via the warp and somehow reconciled, Big E could strip Magnus of His Demonic "gifts", and he attempted to return. He would have to face a basically brainwashed IoM military to reach the Comotose E and try to get him up and awake. At which point the High Lords would probably kill them both.
It drives me Bananas but I swear in those dark years before the Internet I read in an actual book possibly the BRB that the HLT had a chance to revive Big E and CHOSE not to.

Your not mad dont worry, thats the first few pages of the inquisitor rulebook, it does indeed give that impresion, if its true or not is another debate.

Alpharius/Omegon. He can work in secret to help the Imperium, and it won't even matter if they want his help or not.

DarknessEternal wrote:Fulgrim is the only possibility.

The other ones have ten thousand years of atrocities under their belts. Fulgrim does not.

Of course, it would take some kind of potency to expel his daemon, and someone great enough to forgive him. The only being that fits both criteria is semi-comatose on the Golden Throne.

The Imperium isn't actually aware of Fulgrim's possession, are they?

And beyond that, he still participated in the Dropsite Massacre, and killed a fellow Primarch. Before being completely possessed.

Void__Dragon wrote:
The Imperium isn't actually aware of Fulgrim's possession, are they?

And beyond that, he still participated in the Dropsite Massacre, and killed a fellow Primarch. Before being completely possessed.

They are not. Which is one of the many reasons I said it would take someone with Emperor-like authority to annul his litany of transgressions.

None. No way.

Alpha and Omegon - since they are secretly working for the Imperium anyways why not? Well, there men are really evil, but hey, who cares!
Sqallum

DarknessEternal wrote:Fulgrim is the only possibility.

The other ones have ten thousand years of atrocities under their belts. Fulgrim does not.

Of course, it would take some kind of potency to expel his daemon, and someone great enough to forgive him. The only being that fits both criteria is semi-comatose on the Golden Throne.

Wasn't Fulgrim the guy who ordered his soldiers to go on a killing spree on some loyalist world?

HERESY

KilroyKiljoy wrote:HERESY

What? Fulgrim is the multi-armed slanneshi snake guy, right?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

KilroyKiljoy wrote:HERESY

What? Fulgrim is the multi-armed slanneshi snake guy, right?

I meant to this thread in General.

You're right, Fulgrim is a pure Daemon Prince. And he also killed the most badass primarch, Ferrus Manus. So yeah, there's 0 chance of him ever coming back.

There's literally only two primarchs that could ever possibly come back to the Imperium, because it is speculated that they are still loyal: Alpharius and Omegon.

Kruze is dead, so impossible

Mort is a bloated plague monster, would probably just die if Nurgle didn't keep him immune to the many plagues running through his system. I'll give him an impossible like Kruze.

Angron...He's off his rocker.

"For The Emperor!" No, wait...That can't be right.

Magnus...Scant possibility. >.0001% chance. 10,000 years of seething hatred for the Emperor doesn't help the possibility for a lovely father-son reunion.

Horus is super dead.

Perterabo eh....He's kind of a sociopath for wiping out everyone on his home world. I don't see why he'd ever want to go back, he was always kinda that guy, the odd man out during his great crusade days. Suppose he's a possible but probably less likely than Magnus as he's got no motivation.

Alpharius/Omegon...Who knows? Really, who knows?

Fulgrim - 10,000 confined to a tiny corner of your mind while a daemon has Slaanesh fueled 'fun' all day, every day? Not good for the soul. Not at all. Assuming he's strong enough to overcome the daemon, which he isn't since he's a wimp with an inferiority complex, he's still got a daemon prince body.......Impossible.

Lorgar. The original traitor. Enough said. Impossible.

Magnus is the only one I can even conceive ever possibly managing to integrate back to the Imperium.

While he would not be accepted, it would be a small feat for him to disguise his appearance and stature, to re-integrate himself into the Imperium. He's the second most powerful psyker to ever live after all, and his father managed that feat easily, and for millenia.

But ultimately, none would go back, even though Magnus could possibly manage it.

Horus isn't dead....

he just doesn't exist anymore due to the emperor being a boss and mind blasting his soul to oblivion....

but Alpharius and Magnus have that 0.000000000000000001 percent chance...

Fulgrim regretted his ways in the end but by then it was too late... He killed Ferrus Manus.

How cool would it be though if one of the traitor primarchs were to join the emperor again.

Didn't Horus regret his turning at the end as well?

DornFist wrote:Fulgrim regretted his ways in the end but by then it was too late... He killed Ferrus Manus.

How cool would it be though if one of the traitor primarchs were to join the emperor again.

Didn't Horus regret his turning at the end as well?

Yeah..about a split second before getting vaporized.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

DornFist wrote:Fulgrim regretted his ways in the end but by then it was too late... He killed Ferrus Manus.

How cool would it be though if one of the traitor primarchs were to join the emperor again.

Didn't Horus regret his turning at the end as well?

Yeah..about a split second before getting vaporized.

I don't think it was regret for turning,

I think he regrets lowering his ships energy shields, letting the emperor teleport onto the ship...

Alpharius and Omegon are fighting for the sake of man, the Imperium just can't get the thought of a double agent working for them through their thick skulls.

Double agents are the work of Chaos.

BrainDeleted wrote:Fulgrim - 10,000 confined to a tiny corner of your mind while a daemon has Slaanesh fueled 'fun' all day, every day? Not good for the soul. Not at all. Assuming he's strong enough to overcome the daemon, which he isn't since he's a wimp with an inferiority complex, he's still got a daemon prince body.......Impossible.

There is actually some precedent here. Kage got possessed, but a Pariah working for the Inquisition was able to nullify the daemon's powers for long enough for So Fulgrim could be given control of his body back if a potent enough Pariah got near him. Since he has psychic shields which he needed to lower for the daemon to get in, he's conceivably be able to keep control of his body if it was given back to him. Of course, being a six armed snake thing probably wouldn't appeal to him. And his inferiority complex is the Emperor's fault for screwing up his gene seed and killing most of his legion...

Who knows about Alpharius/Omegon? They may or may not be dead, evil or moustache twirling sociopaths, but the Imperium won't be welcoming them back with open arms.

Void__Dragon wrote:

The Imperium isn't actually aware of Fulgrim's possession, are they?

And beyond that, he still participated in the Dropsite Massacre, and killed a fellow Primarch. Before being completely possessed.

Read the novel. He wanted to let his brother kill him. The daemon blade blocked and killed on it's own.