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so i'm about to buy a new space wolves army and can't decide between the following two lists:

Rune priest heavy

Rune Priest, Jaws of the World Wolf, Tempest's Wrath
Rune Priest, Living Lightning, Tempest's Wrath
Rune Priest, Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane
Rune Priest, Jaws of the World Wolf, Living Lightning

Wolf Guard, 3x Combi-Melta & Power Fist, Terminator Armour w/Cyclone Missile Launcher

6x Grey Hunter, Meltagun & Rhino
6x Grey Hunter, Meltagun & Rhino
6x Grey Hunter, Meltagun & Rhino
6x Grey Hunter, Meltagun & Rhino

5x Long Fangs, 4ML & LAS razorback
5x Long Fangs, 4ML & LAS razorback

Thunderwolf Heavy

Wolf Lord, Thunderwolf, Wolf Claw, Wolf tail talisman,2 fenrisian wolves
Wolf Lord, Thunderwolf, Frost blade, storm shield, Wolf tail talisman, 2 Fenrisian wolves

6x Grey Hunters, meltagun
6x Grey Hunters, meltagun

4 Thunderwolf Cavalry, frost blade, storm shield, boltgun
3 Thunderwolf Cavalry, frost blade, storm shield
3 Thunderwolf Cavalry, frost blade, storm shield

5 Long Fangs, 4x ML
5 Long Fangs, 4x ML

just to note a few tests with thunder cav, frost blades work well as they get their full 5/6 attacks at s6. Works well vs inf and tanks. They have also been equipped to allow wound allocation!

So far i'm leaning towards thunder cav but the first list seems more versatile. Comments please!

I have never played with 4 rune priests but I really do not want to.

Your first list has weak units in the rhinos, though I guess they will have rune priests.

Your second has very few and weak scoring units. Also it will never want to see GK.

Contrary to what MFletch has said, the only difference between your first list as the standard tournament list is the focus on ICs. I think it looks good and you should go with that one.

Godless-Mimicry wrote:Contrary to what MFletch has said, the only difference between your first list as the standard tournament list is the focus on ICs. I think it looks good and you should go with that one.

I thought the standard is wolf standard and mark of the wulfen then maybe even an extra power weapon.

In any case if that is the tournament standard, which it may be I have not disagreed with this - this is contrary to your accusation about me, the tournament standard troop choice is weak. combimelta, melta, powerfist is just a bad tactical squad.

MFletch wrote:

Godless-Mimicry wrote:Contrary to what MFletch has said, the only difference between your first list as the standard tournament list is the focus on ICs. I think it looks good and you should go with that one.

I thought the standard is wolf standard and mark of the wulfen then maybe even an extra power weapon.

In any case if that is the tournament standard, which it may be I have not disagreed with this - this is contrary to your about me, the tournament standard troop choice is weak. combimelta, melta, powerfist is just a bad tactical squad.

Can't agree on the troops front, that squad is packing 26 attacks in combat(4 powerfist, 4power weapon) 2 melta, and d6 unlimited range s7 shots from the rune priest. I honestly think grey hunters are one of the best troop choices in the game.