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Yes Mongoose Publishing are doing Star Fleet Battles with ACTA rules... Out end of November.

That might get me interested. I like some of the SFB minis, but hate the rules. A far less complex rule set might get me into it.

Lets just hope that this is one of the projects Mongoose actually follows through with.

The rules are the call to arms set from the B5 days.

Mongoose has put up a snipit of the basic rules:

http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/

I've been looking forward to these rules for a while now. I really enjoy the whole Star Trek universe, but I've never been encouraged by what I've heard about Starfleet Battles. One of the most appealing things about this ruleset is that it looks to be a fleet scale game, instead of a one on one ship duel game.

Ruckdog wrote:I've been looking forward to these rules for a while now. I really enjoy the whole Star Trek universe, but I've never been encouraged by what I've heard about Starfleet Battles. One of the most appealing things about this ruleset is that it looks to be a fleet scale game, instead of a one on one ship duel game.

Starfleet Battles is great if you love extremely detailed tactical simulators. It makes great battle reports because of the deep detail. However, as a game its morbidly slow, and quite boring unless your really into the style of game. If Mongoose actually finishes the project it should take off, as Trek folks are starving for a larger scale faster playing game.

Also, with the release of the new Star Trek clix game featuring newer ships Im betting there will be some fan made stats to go with the Mongoose game.

Yeah, and the Clix game is fun in its own right! The minis for it are pretty good, although I would be tempted to break out some of my old Star Trek MicroMachines to use as gaming pieces instead .

Ruckdog wrote:Yeah, and the Clix game is fun in its own right! The minis for it are pretty good, although I would be tempted to break out some of my old Star Trek MicroMachines to use as gaming pieces instead .

Im going to pick it up in a week or so. I want it mostly for the minis, though Im sure Ill give the full game a run or two. Ive given it a look on boardgamegeek.com and the minis paint up quite well.

The company that does SFB already does a quicker, "easier" version. Its called Federation Commander. No where near as complex as SFB and quite a fun game in its own right. One can run a 5+ ship per side fleet battle in about 2-3 hours.

I want to at least see the rules for ACTA SF. Having played SFB since it was a pocket game from task force games. Growing through the wierdness it became. Dropping it for years and then getting back in with FC, I cant see how this will work. I dont want the complexity, but my concern is the "feel" of the universe. It has its own unique feel, how Hydrans and Lyrans interact amongt each other is totally different from how The Federation and Klingons interact. I hope they dont dumb down the uniqueness of each faction and try to shoehorn into a much simpler system to just get it out.

If you click the above link they have posted the basic rules there.

The biggest thing to remember is that ACTA is NOT SFB or Fed Commander. The rules are going to play differently - a lot differently. Shields, for example, will likely not be arc specific but will be a single generic score for the whole ship. Damage will be against the ship as a whole, not system by system.

I'm excited about the release. Seeing that the folks at ADB are helping do the play tests helps make me confident you'll still get the flavor of the Starfleet universe with all the speed that ACTA offers.

I am going to pick up the game with a Klink fleet and a fed Fleet for sure. For the Empire!

Just pre-ordered the rules. can't wait till the models come out!

Yeah, I've got my pre-order in too with the FLGS. I'm looking forward to seeing how they have statted-out the various classes!

You think there will be fleet books or just 1 fleet book?


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Advanced rules preview is up

http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/

After reading the rules preview I was sold looks like a solid game.

I too have placed a pre-order. Reading the blog it interested me. I would lioke to see how they take the overly complex, and most times unneccesary, rules of SFB and turn it in to a decent minis games. like what I saw on the preview pages.

When I get out of hospital Im ordering the book

Id really like to see some of the minis...I cant sign on to a miniatures based game until then.

Here's a shot of a few of the first run figs.



A little super glue and you're done!

not looking too bad.

Yeah they are looking good. The other thing that is cool about this is there are no lack of great ST models out there to go and get if you don't like these. So really it just boils down to the rules.

It's not like playing at a GW where they will kick you out for having any alt model.

I have been waiting for over a year more or less to bring out all the Badab war stuff. but Matt @ mongoose thinks

sarcastro01 wrote:Here's a shot of a few of the first run figs.



A little super glue and you're done!

Not bad for first casts...can see a couple missing chunks and flash. Some idea of size would be nice....are they the same size as the ADB stuff?


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MDizzle wrote:Yeah they are looking good. The other thing that is cool about this is there are no lack of great ST models out there to go and get if you don't like these. So really it just boils down to the rules.

I checked out the Mongoose rules...Ill pass. Im not a fan of a ton of special rules, and when I saw that a simple weapon such as phasers has several special rules, thats all I needed to know.


Ill stick with Full Thrust for my space ship combat needs. The big question right now is which ships...Im down to either the Mongoose Star Trek ships or Firestorm Armada ships....

Yeah to each his own but as a Trek fan not being able to bring full power to phasers would have been no fun so I can see how we would part ways on this.

@Mad4Minis: The new sculpts are a bit larger, at 1:2500 instead of 1:2400 for the old stuff. This post on TTGN has a pic comparing the two sizes:

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2011/08/30/50055/

Ruckdog wrote:@Mad4Minis: The new sculpts are a bit larger, at 1:2500 instead of 1:2400 for the old stuff. This post on TTGN has a pic comparing the two sizes:

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2011/08/30/50055/

Ah, thank you, that was quite helpful. We are starting with some FSA ships, since they are out now, but might have to pick up some of these later in the year.

I'm looking forward to this. I played SFB way back in the day, and was disappointed with Federation Commander in that it did not simplify the game enough to attract players in my area. ACTA should be much better at fleet battles.

Minis wont be out till end of November so sad face :(

Eh, just in time for christmas! .