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Balance wrote: I figured Mongoose had listened ..

?QUE?

Balance wrote:They're a bit bigger than I though. I figured Mongoose had listened tot he backlash about the B5: ACTA "bigatures" as the Armageddon releases were sometimes called.

(Admitrtedly, those releases also suffered by jsut being not-great designs... But they were also generally gigantic, for a game that is essentially a 'pinpoint' game. I.E. the base stem was the important bit...

Nope. They didnt listen. What they did was release the current line of minis (with ADB) to be the next scale size up, so they're noticeably bigger than the older 2400 series minis. Of course, there is nothing stopping you from using the smaller ships for the game. I bought both t he federation and klingon boxes to check them out, but might just trade/sell em off for the smaller ships anyway.

I'm hoping to get them assembled and painted in short order.

I've only read the rules, but they do seem to be different enough from Noble Armada to make it interesting (no regenerating shields, very little boarding action) if I read them right. I hope to get a game in soon.

Some of the ships are bigger then ADB's old ones, mainly because everything is at a proper scale now.

I have no problem with bigger minis, so I welcome the change.

Forget about scale just send my minis I preordered and still have not got my squadron boxes.

MDizzle wrote:Forget about scale just send my minis I preordered and still have not got my squadron boxes.

Where did you order from?

I got my Squad Boxes from The Warstore last week, and my blisters from Mongoose Direct yesterday.


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Those are some nice looking Klingnon ships! Gotta love those red highlights .

MDizzle wrote:Forget about scale just send my minis I preordered and still have not got my squadron boxes.

Drop me a line at msprange@mongoosepublishing.com. Squadron sets are now on a 48 hour turnaround (by next week it will be our usual 24 hour turnaround). The very last of our squadron pre-orders are going out today/tomorrow, so if you contact me with your order details (I am presuming you ordered them from us!) I'll tell you when you can expect them - if, indeed, you haven't already received them!



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Cruentus wrote:
Nope. They didnt listen.

A trifle unfair - we did listen.

These are hardly 'over-sized' and you can easily find bigger starship models on the market. They are comparable to, say, the old Battlefleet Gothic range in size. Even the starbases that are coming will fit comfortably in the palm of your hand, and, being resin, they won't stress the bases.

Should have pictures up of my Federation ships. Just started painting. Need to ask anyone out there who ordered the Federation ships.

Anyone else having trouble with the Dreadnought not balancing correctly? I have assembled them correctly and it just doesnt want to sit on its stand properly. Keeps flopping forward. Aside from that the models look great. Though, they feel like they are made out of Soap!

I just got my hands on my ACTA:SF stuff yesterday. So far, I'm very happy with the quality of the product. I'll provably start working on the painting this week!

I still don't have my minis it's the worst customer service I have ever had from any wargaming company totally sucks. My rulebook was over 3 months late and when I sent emails they were not returned and when I demanded my money back I got an email saying your rulebook is on the way and we will send you something extra.

Of course when it arrived noting extra was in the box. I sent an email stating this to Moogoose Matt the author of the book and head honcho at Mongoose from what I can till. He said he would see to it personally that was 3 weeks ago still nothing.

As for my squadron boxes they are over a month late with no apologies no nothing Mongoose you suck.

Sorry to hear you are having such a bad experience. I would urge patience; hopefully Mongoose can get everything straitened out for you.

Dude I have been patient it's not like there a week late and I am freaking out they are several months late and it's BS.

MDrizzle, drop me a line at msprange@mongoosepublishing.com, and we will sort you out.

Hey Ruckdog how does ACTA:SF stand up to Firestorm Armada?

Got in my first game of ACTA: Starfleet. Will have pics of my ships to follow. My friend was using the Klingon Squadron basic and I Was using the Federation Squadron w/ the New Jersey Battlecruiser.

Disclaimers:
First game of Starfleet Anything
Have only played Battlefleet Gothic.


The rules are farily basic, extremely basic when compared against BFG. Since it was the first time either of us had looked at it or played we chose not to use any of the special orders or really any of the advanced rules beyond Crew Quality.

We did a few things wrong. Like how to determine the Ships Crew Quality. (We now know the correct method). We also forgot about Seeking and were doing Drones wrong, but we managed. We simply were rolling to hit with those as well instead of treating them as automatic hits.

All in all though the damage tracking was fun. The different ship criticals that one can get added a new aspect to the game. Then in the end phase the chance to repair those. It really did feel like a star fleet ship engagement. We played three rounds in an Annihilation scenario and it took us about 2 hours. This included the pre-game quick & dirty explanation of the rules. With only one book only one of us had read it. Being unfamiliar things started slow but as the fleets closed on each other they picked up. In the end we each lost a ship before we both mutually agreed to disengage. (had other things to do and couldnt finish the game).

Hitting on a 4 up for everything stream lines it. Once you learn the arcs that each weapon system fires in will speed up combat as well. Our ships started taking less and less time to declare shots and resolve them.

Im not sure how all this is compared to Starfleet Universe or Noble Armada but coming from Gothic it was rather enjoyable. On top of that, since its Star Trek, it makes it even more enjoyable through its familiarity.


Only complaint really so far is the delay in the models! I want my Starfleet Federation Fleet box damnit!

Okay I have to report back you dakkites about my experience with Mongoose so after 3 month waits tons of unfulfilled dead lines and no responses to emails I got thorough to Matthew at Mongoose about my rulebook that was 3 months late and he kindly stated that he would send me something extra for my trouble and my book arrived and I got nothing extra no big deal but disappointing non the less. I contacted Matthew about this(and posted in this thread) and he said he would see to it personally and I waited 3 weeks got nothing and then I contacted him again this time he said email me back if you don't have something in a week.

That next week I received a box I opened it to find a box of ships for Noble Armada a similar game Mongoose produces that is has nothing to do with Start Trek and the Rule book so I got a Free game that's pretty freaking cool I must say! Even though it's not a game I wanted to pick up it was still a ton of free stuff and I thought it was really nice for Matthew to do that.

My Squadron boxes ordered early Dec 2011 that were finally arrived on Feb 6 2012 as I looked at my new minis they are well to be honest disappointing I realize I can't hold every miniature manufacture to the standards of a GW but this was way worse than fincast with mold lines bubbles and flash. So all in all I am really disappointed in Mongoose as a company. I kinda got the feeling that when I complained on Mongooses forums I was ignored but when I posted here things started to get way better customer service wise. Maybe I am wrong about this maybe it was just the timing or a random occurrence.

The game seems to be solid and really fun to play TBH and I am happy with that but if I continue to buy minis for this game I may look elsewhere a shame really I want to support the company that makes a fun rules set but in the end you can't depend on getting your order in any normal time frame and when the minis to arrive they are lack luster. This makes me want to pursue other avenues.

I cant find any one in the uk but mongoose who sells it

ADB still has their miniatures line on production. Smaller and in meatal, but they have all the ships you could want for the game. No need to wait or buy sub-par miniatures to play the game. Or you get some of the Megahex counters and use them until Mongoose can get their act together.

MDizzle wrote:Hey Ruckdog how does ACTA:SF stand up to Firestorm Armada?

Sorry I missed your post earlier! I haven't gotten a chance to play ACTA yet, but looking over the rules I would say that the game is more akin to BFG than FA in moving and shooting. Also, ACTA is not a "bucket of dice" game, which is a big difference from both BFG and FA.

Hi. I'm new here, but here's some pics of my completed ACTA:SF miniatures and an after action report on my first game.







Some individual ships:






And the after action report:

http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=50778

It's a fun game.

And for anyone who likes the firing arc base stickers, I do sell them...

Dude,

Awesome paint job man.
Any more Battle Reports?

will Try and get one up myself. However, our games run a little long so keeping track of them in the long run is difficult. (usually forget we are doing it haha)

Hi, no I have only played the one game.

Thanks. I'm getting the painting miniatures touch back after not doing it for about 25 years or so.

I've got 2 Fleet Boxes on order and will post more when I get some done.

Here's my latest creation: One of the new metal D5s.

I decided to do something different with the Klingon War hulls (F5W, D5, D5W). Reasoning that the Klingons would not bother to paint what they considered to be an attrition unit subject to high casualties, they just left the hull in it's natural metal color.

Certainly the new paint scheme will alleviate the apparently common inability of newer players to distinguish a D5 from a D7 or C7.

Thus, my new D5:




I used a grey primer with:
GW (Citadel) new paint called Leadbelcher, 2 coats.
Followed by one of GW's new shades called Nuln Oil, which did well as a shading wash. Touched up all the recessed/shadowed areas.
Followed by a drybrush of GW's Necron Compound.

What do you all think?

Looks good!

Sorry, lost this thread in the "re-alignment" BS.


Debating that with the new federation ships I have. Got our metal fleet box and started assembling them.
I must say the quality of these models as opposed to the originals are vastly improved!

BS?? It was lots of work!

Let us know if you have any thoughts/suggestions, I'm hoping this section will take off now that there are less games vying for this same space as they've been split off into their own forums.

I had some ships like these just over ten years ago, in high school... plastic, but made to look like metal (painted silver and washed). Wish I'd hung onto them to use for this!

My only complaint was the loss & separation of the Naval/Space & Other types. It makes sense in regards to the various game producers just will take some time to adjust to where things are now.

Didnt really mean that it was BS.

I wish I had saved all those old plastic starfleet ships that were sold when I Was a kid. Had a ton of those but no idea where they are now.

Comintern wrote:I wish I had saved all those old plastic starfleet ships that were sold when I Was a kid. Had a ton of those but no idea where they are now.

Yeah, mine looked just like these as far as I can tell, although probably made from a different material / perhaps not as high quality..

As for forum organization, we definitely considered keeping a "naval combat" space, but it seemed to make the most sense to break up by manufacturer for now... let's see how this goes once people get used to it.

I have been playing this game a lot and it's really freaking good when you add planets and moons super fun to play the mini thing is disappointing.

MDizzle wrote:I have been playing this game a lot and it's really freaking good when you add planets and moons super fun to play the mini thing is disappointing.

I've got 5 games under my belt now. All in all the game system has improved, especially the new way drones are handled.

My current beef is the Klingons. They are so freaking hard to beat, what with their hyper-agility and double front shield. I've talked to numerous people who are both playtesters and serious players. They say that the Klingons are beatable with the right tactics, and to hang in there. The games will not only get faster, which I am seeing already, but you'll figure out how to beat the Klingons. So don't be discouraged as I was..

In the last game we tried Gorns vs Klingons, and it was about even when we had stop the game. Gorns used a BCH, CM, 2 HD, 4 BDD, losing a CM and BDD. Klingons used a C7, 3 D5W, 3 F5, 2 E4 and lost a D5W, E4 and a crippled F5. At that point we ran out of time, but it looked like the Gorns were going to get slaughtered the next turn. Later on, just out of curiosity I continued the game solitaire to see what would have happened. The Gorns took a beating, but were able to reload their plasmas and wail on the Klingons, killing another D5W and F5, having a CM and BDD crippled.

First time I'd even gotten a draw, and I didn't appreciate how devastating that second plasma salvo would be. This despite the 7 of 9 Klingon ships being on Intensify Defensive Fire and shooting down about 75% of my plasma in the first attacks. The second plasma attacks he got 4 of 7 ships on IDF and the plasma attack was more telling this time.

As for the miniatures availability, it's improving significantly. If you order direct from Mongoose, availability is better, though shipping is kinda slow. It appears that despite them having the casting done in Ohio (old Agents of Gaming facility I hear), they are shipping minis from England. So don't expect them to arrive quickly. However, if you want single ships ordering direct from Mongoose is the only way right now; ADB has a few singles but the selection is weak.

If you're more in a hurry, FRP games has Fleet Boxes and Squadron boxes for a good price, though they don't yet sell singles or the new Federation Reinforcements box.

Miss Dee wrote:I cant find any one in the uk but mongoose who sells it

I've just found this store that sells it, 'Infinity Games' along with a slight reduction on RRP - http://www.iguk.co.uk/categories/star-fleet-battles-198.aspx, mistakenly placed in the 'role playing' section of the website.

There are also a few bits and pieces up on ebay now.

Just going to put an order in for the book, looks like a fun game to play and will be nice to give my old BFG board a use for something!