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Hi, Dakka. Now, I know that there have been times in which 40k armies team up, but just want to know them. So, when have 40k armies teamed up, and who were they?

In before Necrons and Blood Angels.

Constructively, Imperial Guard and Space Marines (duh).

Yes, but not Imperium with Imperium. And, the BA joined with Necrons? Wow.

They didn't join up, they simply stopped shooting eachother to kill off a common enemy, the nids. Its in the BA codex. You'll see some people have it in their sigs with a BA marine brofisting a necron.

Ogryn wrote:Yes, but not Imperium with Imperium. And, the BA joined with Necrons? Wow.

Oh god....please....please for the love of terra stop talking about that......they will here you........the bro-fist....the BRO-FIST PICTURE...

It's coming......it's coming...........

anyway, the Eldar and the Imperium teamed up during the Horus heresy I believe....

Well, that is good. (For the Eldar), as I play Eldar. Come to think of it, has there been any times in which the Imperium teamed with Orks?

Eldar and Imperium teamed up during the 13th Black Cruasde, and pretty often in the fluff. Dawn of War: Winter Assault saw the Imperial Guard and the Eldar teaming up, and Orks and Chaos teaming up. Of course by the end the Warboss figures he wants the spiky boyz' head on his bosspole, but that's Orks for you.

Generally "order" races like the Imperium, Eldar, and Tau team up from time to time to confront a greater thread. Orks, Chaos, and rarely Dark Eldar will do the same. Necrons and Blood Angels teaming up is something that will make a lot more sense with the new codex's fluff, but is still silly.

I think at one point in the Dark Eldar codex the Tau and Dark Eldar team up, but only until the Dark Eldar decide to enslave the Tau. The Imperium have teamed with Orks once or twice, but usually only Ork mercenaries like Blood Axes. On Armageddon, Herman Von Straub sold out to the Orks and they supported him and his militia.

It's suggested that the Blood Axes have teamed up with Imperial forces.

Ogryn wrote:Well, that is good. (For the Eldar), as I play Eldar. Come to think of it, has there been any times in which the Imperium teamed with Orks?

No, (I don't believe anyway) but the imperium/eldar LOVE to bait the orks to go attack something that they want out of their way...

You might say that Ultramarines & Orks team up in Space Marine, but it's kind of a stretch.

DeffDred wrote:It's suggested that the Blood Axes have teamed up with Imperial forces.

They were probably paid, like mercenaries...

So I wouldn't consider that "teaming up" more, well....being paid to fight.


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hoogathy wrote:You might say that Ultramarines & Orks team up in Space Marine, but it's kind of a stretch.

No....they never team up in space marine....It's a 3 way battle the whole time.....did you ever even play the game????

The Ultras and Tau brofisted and blew up some Necrons that woke up from their nap.

Necrons have, since Codex: Eye of Terror and the fluff surrounding EoT, essentially been a 'neutral' faction.

Now, this does not mean that they sit on the sidelines and give out hugs and kisses.

It means that they do not care who or they killed, and there were quite a few instances during the fluff of EoT that the Necrons 'saved' Imperial forces who were fighting Daemonic Incursions but then turned upon the Imperial forces if the Imperial forces tried to stop them from their tasks.

The exception to this, however, is the Eldar. The Necrontyr and the C'Tan hate the Old Ones and their creations--but seemingly have no issue letting humanity do its own thing.
Why? I have no idea. Maybe Ward has expanded upon it.

I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

No, never....

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

That's like asking gasoline to team up with fire

Okay, okay, no bro-fisting BA/Necron... so how about a piggy back ride?



It is to me just as likely for Chaos and the Imperium to 'join forces' to fight off the Tyranide/Ork/Whatever when face with overwhelming number as what the Necron/BA did btw...

The bit in the codex implies that it was more than just business as usual btw, as the BA didn't feel like fighting against those who had been their allies minutes before... so much for purge the xenos.

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

Depends on how you mean. For instance, Quixos certainly has. While he was undeniably deranged, he was still working towards a cause that would benefit the Imperium. And he was more than happy to work with Chaos loonies in order to make it happen.

Eisenhorn 'worked with' Pontius Glaw, as well as Cherubael. While Cherubael may technically be enslaved, I think that anyone whose read the later books would be hard pressed to call the demon unhappy.

Generally, I think radical Inquisitors will work with Chaos 'for the good of the Imperium,' especially if they think they're getting one over on their allies.

But when you remember that Dante was in charge of the force, and they had in fact been fighting the Necrons prior (and getting stomped by said Necrons) you suddenly have a great justification for a "peaceful withdrawal from the realm of your honored foe".

Couple that with the 'new' bit about the Silent King, who was the Necron who initiated contact with the C'Tan and made "The Deal" and then exiled himself...only to encounter the Tyranids in the void beyond the universe, it suddenly becomes a lot more tolerable.

So you're implying that the retreat was a tactical move by Dante in order to not lose face/get killed by the Necron, and the politic of it is to say 'we left because of honor... yeah...'.

I actually kinda like that, if it only because it makes the BA acts like the slimy douchebag in power armor their outward appearance so clearly embody

It's important to remember that Dante is an old, old, old geezer.

He is the oldest Astartes outside of a Dreadnought. It's not entirely unbelievable that he might be a bit more pragmatic than say Calgar or Sicarius who would charge in with a rebel yell, for more more more.

Kanluwen wrote:It's important to remember that Dante is an old, old, old geezer.

He is the oldest Astartes outside of a Dreadnought. It's not entirely unbelievable that he might be a bit more pragmatic than say Calgar or Sicarius who would charge in with a rebel yell, for more more more.

Thank you Kanluwen. I lol'ed.

Honestly, if the Necrons are gaining some kind of new individuality with their new background, I think that their structured society would lend itself better to an armistice/ceasefire/alliance/brofisting/just-looking-the-other-way-while-the-other-guy-saunters-around-the-corner with the Blood Angels. That never really bothere me too much, from either end. Dante is smart enough to know when to cut and run, and the Necrons could (and I think should) consider the Tyranids to be a far greater enemy than humans. (Since they are diametrically opposed to one another.)

Clearly, Dante doesn't just live in the heat of the moment and he's quite aware of the safety dance.

Calgar and Sicarius just don't know about home sweet home.

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

Alpha Legion have teamed up with everyone.

Durza wrote:

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

Alpha Legion have used everyone for their own ends.

Fixed your statement to be more factually accurate.

Basically, in regards to Chaos "teaming up" with the Imperium--in terms of organizations getting together and fighting alongside each other?
No.
In terms of individuals doing the same?
Nope.

The examples of radical Inquisitors "teaming up" with Chaos are flawed. By that point they are effectively servants of the Ruinous Powers themselves, so it's essentially Chaos teaming up with Chaos.
The example of Eisenhorn and Cherubael is a bit more tricky to quantify, but again...it's not an alliance of equals.
Eisenhorn broke and bound Cherubael to his will. Cherubael is a shadow of his unbound self, and he can't do a dang thing to stop it.

Kanluwen wrote:

Durza wrote:

Ogryn wrote:I have a very stupid question. Has Chaos ever teamed with the Imperium? Probably not.

Alpha Legion have used everyone for their own ends.

Fixed your statement to be more factually accurate.

Basically, in regards to Chaos "teaming up" with the Imperium--in terms of organizations getting together and fighting alongside each other?
No.
In terms of individuals doing the same?
Nope.

The examples of radical Inquisitors "teaming up" with Chaos are flawed. By that point they are effectively servants of the Ruinous Powers themselves, so it's essentially Chaos teaming up with Chaos.
The example of Eisenhorn and Cherubael is a bit more tricky to quantify, but again...it's not an alliance of equals.
Eisenhorn broke and bound Cherubael to his will. Cherubael is a shadow of his unbound self, and he can't do a dang thing to stop it.

Indeed, that is more correct.

It would, in theory, be possible for Chaos to team up with the Imperium if something totally momumentous, like the entire planet suddenly erupting in Necrons or something happened. But the Imperial side would be executed for suffering the heretic to live.

bombboy1252 wrote:

Ogryn wrote:Yes, but not Imperium with Imperium. And, the BA joined with Necrons? Wow.

Oh god....please....please for the love of terra stop talking about that......they will here you........the bro-fist....the BRO-FIST PICTURE...

It's coming......it's coming...........

anyway, the Eldar and the Imperium teamed up during the Horus heresy I believe....

You called it by it's name, at it has arrived! TREMBLE BEFORE THE ALMIGHTY HYPERBOLE MUHAHAHAHAHA!

In DOWII Retribution the Imperial Guard use the Orks for their own end, the Orks agree because it means more fighting. However the Orks always had the intention of turning on them once they had completed their task. The Guard knew this of course.

Craftworld Eldar and Exodites might as well be in the same codex, since Craftworlders help the Exodites more regularly than Marines help Imperial Guard. Well, nearly.

Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar team up to and from (even though the fluff has apparently shifted to make Dark Eldar even less friendly to Craftworlders). Sometimes the Dark Eldar even do it unselfishly, especially when the Craftworld happens to be a Iyanden and their anguish over extensive use of necromancy amuses the Dark Eldar leader in question.

And then you have this conspiracy theory where Eldar engineered Tau Ethereals...

In the current DE codex, there is a story about Tau and DE teaming up. The DE backstab the Tau in the end, of course.