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I was just wondering, if an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor wanted a War Class Titan could he get it? If so whats the biggest size? Warlord, Scout, or Emperor? Its just I want to include some kind of Titan in my GK Army. Thanks Dakka Dakka!
- MC

The biggest Titan is the Emperor Class Titan.

And if a powerful Inquisitor wanted a Titan, I'm sure he could pull some strings to get one.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/399597.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/399597.page


Edit: Rats, beat me to it.

He could get one assigned...maybe, depending on the situation.

It would not be "his" Titan however. It would come complete with its own support elements and defenders, and Emperor protect him if he tried to seize it.

Yeah, it's more a situation of asking a Legio for the use of one for some action he requires it for. It doesn't become his Titan, and goes back to the Legio when the action is done and if it is not destroyed.

The inquisition would almost never need a titan in any case, at least for fluff reasons. If a threat was big enough to require titans to fight it, the inquisitor would most likely just declare exterminatus and be done with it, rather than risking defeat.

The grey knights, however, do have access to titans of their own, gifted to them by mars.

This is not canon, but god damnit i'm going to pretend it is:
http://www.tanksandtrolls.co.uk/40KGrey%20Knight%20Titan.htm

Horst wrote:

This is not canon, but god damnit i'm going to pretend it is:
http://www.tanksandtrolls.co.uk/40KGrey%20Knight%20Titan.htm

This is frekin awesome!!! I'm using this now!!

Horst wrote:The inquisition would almost never need a titan in any case, at least for fluff reasons. If a threat was big enough to require titans to fight it, the inquisitor would most likely just declare exterminatus and be done with it, rather than risking defeat.

Err, no they wouldn't. Exterminatus is something that is only done in the most dire of circumstances. They don't even like doing it to deny biomass to Tyranids. habitable worlds aren't everywhere, and wiping one out is done sparingly.

-Loki- wrote:

Horst wrote:The inquisition would almost never need a titan in any case, at least for fluff reasons. If a threat was big enough to require titans to fight it, the inquisitor would most likely just declare exterminatus and be done with it, rather than risking defeat.

Err, no they wouldn't. Exterminatus is something that is only done in the most dire of circumstances. They don't even like doing it to deny biomass to Tyranids. habitable worlds aren't everywhere, and wiping one out is done sparingly.

This.

I don't know why people think they just run around throwing exterminatus on everything in site...........

"Theirs an ork tribe on that world" "EXTERMINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATUS!!!"

... of course exterminatus is a last ditch effort.

However, committing a titan legion to a battle is every bit as desperate. They wouldn't ever send just 1 titan by itself... a warlord or emperor class titan is far too valuable to risk without a vanguard of smaller titans.... and if there is a planet that requires THAT kind of resource allocation to save, then it must be crucial to the imperium, like a forgeworld or something.

If that much firepower is called for on a non-important world, I really can't see an inquisitor having a difficult time sanctioning an exterminatus.

I mean, even if the mechanicus could spare a single warhound, a warhound doesn't add much more than a baneblade, which would be much more commonly available to the guard forces, and could much more easily be requisitioned.

Hell, titans usually aren't even available for inquisitors, because there aren't exactly a lot of them left, and they are almost always committed to defending forgeworlds and other critical imperial interests, or for breaking traitor legion titans.

The inquisitors level of battlefield escalation normally goes:
His retinue -> Guard units -> Naval units -> Space Marines -> End Game.

That End Game may be grey knights, may be titans, or it may be exterminatus... but I am willing to bet he almost never has access to any more than 1 of those final options.

What CAN"T an Inquisitor requisition?

TechMarine1 wrote:What CAN"T an Inquisitor requisition?

He can't assume command of anything but guard or navy... when it comes to things like titans or space marines, they are obligated to help, but can choose not to.

They generally help anyway if they can, because if they start refusing too many requests they could be declared traitors, and their fellow astartes would turn on them. The marines were created to fight the imperium's enemies after all, and any loyal chapter would do its best to answer the call of a true servant of the imperium.

Sounds like a Inquisitor can get everything he wants,unless he wants to sit on the Golden Throne

Inquisitors wield the authority Emperor. They are; however, bound by the "Office Politics" that comes with all your co-workers having the authority of God.

This is not canon, but god damnit i'm going to pretend it is:
http://www.tanksandtrolls.co.uk/40KGrey%20Knight%20Titan.htm

Timothy Zahn, Inquisition War.

Inquisitor Jaq requisitions an Emperor class in the middle of a BATTLE, to find an eldar webway.

Horst wrote:... of course exterminatus is a last ditch effort.

However, committing a titan legion to a battle is every bit as desperate. They wouldn't ever send just 1 titan by itself... a warlord or emperor class titan is far too valuable to risk without a vanguard of smaller titans.... and if there is a planet that requires THAT kind of resource allocation to save, then it must be crucial to the imperium, like a forgeworld or something.

If that much firepower is called for on a non-important world, I really can't see an inquisitor having a difficult time sanctioning an exterminatus.

Kryptman got fired for using it too much. True, he exterminated a few worlds, not just one, but with the epxress purpose of diverting a large tendril of Leviathan. Exterminatus isn't something that is easy to do.

And if commiting Titans to battle is as desperate as using exterminatus, why ever use Titans? Just use exterminatus! Far easier. If it's a habitable world, and it's possible to win it back by asking a legio for support, then it'll be requested.

The titan legions and space marine chapters, are 2 things that the inquisition cant get a hold of...

Their powers aren't as "limitless" as people think...

Doctadeth wrote:Timothy Zahn, Inquisition War.

Inquisitor Jaq requisitions an Emperor class in the middle of a BATTLE, to find an eldar webway.

Didn't read the book, but it sounds like a titan was already on-planet, and he requested support from it. Thats different.

If the titan was already on the planet, then it is indeed possible for it to divert from its mission to help the inquisitor if the princeps (or his commanders) deem it important enough. They would not have simply landed a titan for him to command if it wasn't already in position to do so... he was just very lucky that such support was available.

Loki wrote:
And if commiting Titans to battle is as desperate as using exterminatus, why ever use Titans? Just use exterminatus! Far easier. If it's a habitable world, and it's possible to win it back by asking a legio for support, then it'll be requested.

They don't use titans very often, but in cases where exterminatus is NOT viable (cadian gate for example, or on high-value forgeworlds or SM Chapter Homeworlds), the strategic value of the planets means that they must hold them at any cost, without destroying them.

Habitable worlds are rare, but not so rare that an inquisitor would think twice about burning one to prevent the enemy from taking it.

The Inquisition can get to command anyone from simple peasant to the planetary Governor. But the only thing he can't get to command is the Emperor's Space Marines.

Brother Coa wrote:The Inquisition can get to command anyone from simple peasant to the planetary Governor. But the only thing he can't get to command is the Emperor's Space Marines.

He/she kinda can...

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:The Inquisition can get to command anyone from simple peasant to the planetary Governor. But the only thing he can't get to command is the Emperor's Space Marines.

He/she kinda can...

We don't count Grey Knights. Or Deathwatch. They are with Inquisition.

Brother Coa wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:The Inquisition can get to command anyone from simple peasant to the planetary Governor. But the only thing he can't get to command is the Emperor's Space Marines.

He/she kinda can...

We don't count Grey Knights. Or Deathwatch. They are with Inquisition.

Well tehnically Deathwatch aren't but still yeah they can...

saduka wrote:Sounds like a Inquisitor can get everything he wants,unless he wants to sit on the Golden Throne

Hi. I am an Inquisitor. Could I sit on the Emperor's lap for a while. I really want to do so!

Deathwatch ain't.

Ninja'd by purple.. you sly bastard.

I am powered by cake and the souls of environmentalists...

Doctadeth wrote:Timothy Zahn, Inquisition War.

Inquisitor Jaq requisitions an Emperor class in the middle of a BATTLE, to find an eldar webway.

I think you mean Ian Watson; Timothy Zahn is the chap who wrote all those terrible Star Wars novels.

bombboy1252 wrote:The titan legions and space marine chapters, are 2 things that the inquisition cant get a hold of...
Their powers aren't as "limitless" as people think...

"Each Inquisitor is a peer of the Imperium, one of a finite elite who hold ultimate authority over mankind. As such, an Inquisitor can recruit any military or civilian force in the pursuit of Imperial duties, from hive world security details through entire Space Marine Chapters, Titan Legions and vessels of the Imperial Navy."
- 5E Rulebook

Their powers aren't as "limited" as people think...

Though honestly, it depends largely on what source you're reading. Given that there seems to be no such thing as a "canon" in 40k, you're still free to believe what you want.

purplefood wrote:Well tehnically Deathwatch aren't but still yeah they can...

Depends entirely on whether you look at GW or FFG books. In studio material, the Deathwatch has always been described as a "fighting formation owned by the Ordo Xenos".

Lynata wrote:

bombboy1252 wrote:The titan legions and space marine chapters, are 2 things that the inquisition cant get a hold of...
Their powers aren't as "limitless" as people think...

"Each Inquisitor is a peer of the Imperium, one of a finite elite who hold ultimate authority over mankind. As such, an Inquisitor can recruit any military or civilian force in the pursuit of Imperial duties, from hive world security details through entire Space Marine Chapters, Titan Legions and vessels of the Imperial Navy."
- 5E Rulebook

Their powers aren't as "limited" as people think...

Though honestly, it depends largely on what source you're reading. Given that there seems to be no such thing as a "canon" in 40k, you're still free to believe what you want.

Chapter Masters and Legio Executors hwoever can refuse, they're not technically part of the Imperium. If an inquisitor walks in and tells a chapter master to get up and get moving to the world he wants taken, he'd be on the wrong end of a bolter. This is why they request assistance. Depending on the chapter or legio, request as politely as thy can. Otherwise they won't acheive their goal, and their brains will likely be on the other side of the room.