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I personally love the idea of this - I'm doing a feral orks army using Codex: Orks, A Legio Cybernetica army using Codex: Necrons, Adeptus Custodes using Codex: Grey Knights, Kroot Renegades using Codex: Tau Empire you get the idea.
Does anyone out there play a counts army?
As well, my friend thinks that playing a counts as army gives me an unfair advantage blah blah blah - do you agree?

How on earth does playing a counts as give you an unfair advantage, if the list is legal what difference does it make how the models look? How is modeling Paladins as Custodes giving anything an unfair advantage?

The only time its really cheeky is when it's done as a codex hop, such as what we saw with Space Wolves (where at the last Adepticon, SW's were the most popular army present and nearly 90% were codex hoppers) where one just uses a different, more powerful list with an otherwise existing army because the newer list is better. Again though, all its violating is the spirit of things, playing against such armies is no different than playing against perfectly modeled and painted equivalents.

He reckons that I could change what a unit is half way through a game to my advantage - thats all

I don't think anyone would complain about it if the tournament mentality wasn't so zealous.

I'd like to see more of it - My Traitor guard use the Guard codex but with spikes and name changes. No more "unfair" than using normal IG.

I enjoy the fact that my army is different from everyone else and people stop and watch my games. Converting is always fun too

Colonel Dakura wrote:He reckons that I could change what a unit is half way through a game to my advantage - thats all

Give him a list that indicates what unit is what. That should shut him up

As long as everything is easily distinguishable I don't care. I have played againt a guy that used bases with different coins to mark what kind of unit they are supposed to be.

As long as someone doesn't model for advantage, and everything is explained before the game starts, then I would zero problem. I'd say I'd enjoy playing against a unique army like that, more than the standard Ultramarines army.

Its fine to me, and would I would actually love to play against a creative army. Honestly, the difference is aesthetic, not any rules issues.

I agree. I have a pre-heresy NL army using the Codez: Blood Angels, as I think they potray them welll - fear, assault troops, mobility and of course, drugs (for the furious charge, FNP etc)
Sqallum

It's great - I have a couple in my sig.

The important thing is to make sure everyone can instantly tell what represents what, and that all the weapons are WYSIWYG.

The unfair advantage comes from people who DON'T do this in tournament situations. Suddently you have to remember what everything represents...

"What do you mean that guy is a counts-as Sgt with a powerfist? If I'd known that I would have targetted the unit earlier."
"Well, I did mention it two hours ago..."

Sqallum wrote:I agree. I have a pre-heresy NL army using the Codez: Blood Angels, as I think they potray them welll - fear, assault troops, mobility and of course, drugs (for the furious charge, FNP etc)
Sqallum

If I did a counts-as army, I'd always keep a written 1 or 2 paragraph expanation with pictures of the models so my oppenent knows who's who.

I'm currently building a counts-as Blood Angels army.

Its not easy, but i'm spending a LOT of time making sure guys are WYSIWYG... check out blog in sig for details.

Counts as is fine, as long as you maintain WYSIWYG and your army looks good.

I like your librarian. The facial detail is really good.

Play with pennies. I don't care.