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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 04:35:46
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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GW already has one up in Spanish.
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2010238a_Necrones_0.0_a_Noviembre_2011.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 04:36:20
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Muy bien!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 04:43:22
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Bravo on GW for putting out an FAQ so fast. I don't even know if there's been enough time to ask questions so frequently!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 04:49:25
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Sadly, it's needed. Now the question is whether they actually answered any of the unnecessary ambiguities in wording that arses have probably been giggling to themselves over while writing up their uber lists all weekend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 04:53:54
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Wow! I think they're addressing issues that are specific to the Spanish translation perhaps?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here's the straight-up Google translation (prepare for the lulz):
P47 .- dimensional corridor. Replace the first sentence
"[...] Choose a friend Necron unit other than a vehicle
[...]"
P50 .- Ray of death. Replace the third sentence: "Each
unit (both friendly and enemy) that it is under this line,
suffer a number of hits equal to the number of thumbnails
of the unit who are under the line. "
P53 .- Platform repair. Replace the third sentence
"[...] added by the unit 1D3 thumbnails (thumbnails
can move and act normally that turn). this does not
can make the number of models in the unit exceeds
their initial number. "
I think thumbnails = models or units... Anyway, it seems really weird that they're allowing you to target friendly models with the Death Ray.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 05:01:36
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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What better way to get through to more juicier enemy units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 05:27:03
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Pretty safe to say when they say "miniaturas" what the actually mean for "thumbnails".
Good on GWS for getting it out so quickly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 08:08:08
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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ill just ask the obvious... why the h in spanish before english? are spanish customers that numerous?
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Evil Sunz
The Dark Pact
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 08:10:24
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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tarnish wrote:ill just ask the obvious... why the h in spanish before english? are spanish customers that numerous?
Probably to clear up translation ambiguities.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 13:44:48
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Fresh-Faced New User
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It's translation errors. I know at least on ray of death, the translation left out a line, which completely changes the way the rule works. Instead of hitting every model under the line, it hits every model in every unit that has anybody under the line. Bad bad bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 13:56:53
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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massey wrote:It's translation errors. I know at least on ray of death, the translation left out a line, which completely changes the way the rule works. Instead of hitting every model under the line, it hits every model in every unit that has anybody under the line. Bad bad bad.
I'd want one if it did! lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 15:22:16
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
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massey wrote:It's translation errors. I know at least on ray of death, the translation left out a line, which completely changes the way the rule works. Instead of hitting every model under the line, it hits every model in every unit that has anybody under the line. Bad bad bad.
To be fair, the English wording seems to do that exact thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 15:25:02
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grakmar wrote:To be fair, the English wording seems to do that exact thing.
No it doesn't. Unless you deliberatly try to misread it. Even then.. it doesn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 15:28:12
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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massey wrote:It's translation errors. I know at least on ray of death, the translation left out a line, which completely changes the way the rule works. Instead of hitting every model under the line, it hits every model in every unit that has anybody under the line. Bad bad bad. Spanish FAQ Translation wrote: P50 .- Ray of death. Replace the third sentence: "Each unit (both friendly and enemy) that it is under this line, suffer a number of hits equal to the number of thumbnails of the unit who are under the line. " We better hope that's a translation issue, because that thing is going to be friggen deadly on the table top!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 16:25:25
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Grakmar wrote:massey wrote:It's translation errors. I know at least on ray of death, the translation left out a line, which completely changes the way the rule works. Instead of hitting every model under the line, it hits every model in every unit that has anybody under the line. Bad bad bad.
To be fair, the English wording seems to do that exact thing.
So you are saying that the English translation states that the number of models hit are equal to the number of models in the unit? I thought it was the number of models actually under the line?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 16:35:30
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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The spanish translation is the roughly the same as the english. So hit the YMDC thread for more info.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 16:37:19
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
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This shows that GW can churn out a FAQ in less than a week, if properly motivated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 17:08:08
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Perhaps this review of the Necron Codex will provide some clarification till there is an English FAQ. I found it interesting and less histrionic than their video from a few days ago about the background lore:
http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/necrons-update/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 21:10:19
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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puma713 wrote:This shows that GW can churn out a FAQ in less than a week, if properly motivated.
This shows that GW doesn't give the codexes a look as they pass by them on the way to the bank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/09 21:20:15
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Sinewy Scourge
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Zweischneid wrote:Grakmar wrote:To be fair, the English wording seems to do that exact thing.
No it doesn't. Unless you deliberatly try to misread it. Even then.. it doesn't.
Actually it does exactly this. There are two ways to read it based on the verbage used. A single comma could clear up the entire discrepency, or a two word phrase. It is a poorly written rule, and as terrible as many that I have seen. (Anyone remember "whole models" in 4th ed?)
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Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 06:48:51
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
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Didn't the english Necron FAQ, (Cananda at least) been updated as well?
I never checked before so not sure what it said before, but date is still 2009, and said something about "even though there is a new edition, people still using the old codex, so ignore blah blah blah.) so not sure what to ignore now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 07:18:40
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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That's the old Necron FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 09:13:59
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Fresh-Faced New User
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As a Spanish player I can assure you that the Spanish Necron FAQ are only about translations issues:
The death ray affecting everyone in the unit, the gosth arch being able to rise the initial unit size and the gate of the monolith being able to take any necron unit (friendly or not, imagine taking a big enemy unit and force them to disembark from a blocked gate  )
Nothing to do with a future English FAQ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 19:03:39
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Harridan wrote:As a Spanish player I can assure you that the Spanish Necron FAQ are only about translations issues:
The death ray affecting everyone in the unit, the gosth arch being able to rise the initial unit size and the gate of the monolith being able to take any necron unit (friendly or not, imagine taking a big enemy unit and force them to disembark from a blocked gate  )
Nothing to do with a future English FAQ
I thought it couldn't do that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 19:05:19
Subject: Re:Necron FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
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Robbietobbie wrote:Harridan wrote:As a Spanish player I can assure you that the Spanish Necron FAQ are only about translations issues:
The death ray affecting everyone in the unit, the gosth arch being able to rise the initial unit size and the gate of the monolith being able to take any necron unit (friendly or not, imagine taking a big enemy unit and force them to disembark from a blocked gate  )
Nothing to do with a future English FAQ
I thought it couldn't do that?
Right. That's what he's saying. The Spanish language version of the codex made those translation errors. That's why GW released a FAQ so soon in Spanish. They fixed those 3 errors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 19:14:15
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Fresh-Faced New User
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another example of the GW Spain translating efficiency is that the libbys and mephiston have power sword instead of force weapon ¬¬
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/10 19:58:19
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Oh right, really need to learn to read
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 01:41:02
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Still confused. How does the Death ray actually work?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 02:16:24
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Wraith
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Pick a point within 12" and LOS and all that. Draw a line 3D6" from that point. Units (friendly and enemy) under the line take a number of hits equal to the number of models under the line that belong to that unit.
For example, the line passes over 3 models from unit A, 4 Models from unit B, and 1 model from unit C.
Unit A suffers 3 hits, B suffers 4, and C suffers 1.
I think that's how it works, anyway. However, the way it's originally written in English *could* be interpreted as the units suffer a number of hits equal to the number of models in the unit, as it says something along the lines of "number of hits equal to the number of models in the unit under the line". This could mean that it "takes a number of hits equal to the number of models in the unit under the line or, the correct interpretation, which is "takes a number of his equal to the number of models in the unit [that are] under the line." Really, they should've just said that the unit suffers a number of hits equal to the number of models under the line that belong to that unit, or something along those lines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 10:58:07
Subject: Necron FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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IT can only be interpreted in the abusive way if you ignore the "underneath the line" part.
If 3 models from unit A are under the line, then unit A has suffered 3 hits
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