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HQ
3 x Heamonculus, wwp, Liquifier
1 x Baron Sathonyx

Troops
6 x Wyches, 1 x razor Flail, haywire Grenades
1x Hextrix, Agoniser, haywire

6 x Wyches, 1 x razor Flail, haywire Grenades
1x Hextrix, Agoniser, haywire

6 x Wyches, 1 x razor Flail, haywire Grenades
1x Hextrix, Agoniser, haywire

6 x Wyches, 1 x razor Flail, haywire Grenades
1x Hextrix, Agoniser, haywire

6 x Wyches, 1 x razor Flail, haywire Grenades
1x Hextrix, Agoniser, haywire

5x Warriors blaster
Raider, flickerfields

Elites
4x Harlequin 4x kiss
1x Shadowseer, fusion, kiss
1x Troupe Master, fusion, PW

4x Harlequin 4x kiss
1x Shadowseer, fusion, kiss
1x Troupe Master, fusion, PW

4x Harlequin 4x kiss
1x Shadowseer, fusion, kiss
1x Troupe Master, fusion, PW

Fast Attack:

6x Reaver Jetbikes, 2 x Heat Lance

6x Reaver Jetbikes, 2 x Heat Lance

2x Beastmaster
4x Khymerae
2x Razorwing Flock

Heavy

1x Talos, Flails, Heat Lance

1x Talos, Flails, Heat Lance

1x Talos, Flails, Heat Lance


Total 2493


On all missions except DoW the heamons go with the Harlies, one in the middle and one on each side. On the first turn the middle heamon pops his WWP and the outer two units fleets. Turn two reserves arrive and start tying up / killing units and the outer two heamonculus open their portals. After the Heamonculus use their portals they will join the nearest DE unit and transfer his token, then break off and flame anything he can. On certain occasions I might reverse the pattern or wait till turn thee to drop another wwp I am sure it will change depending on what comes in turn 2.


In DoW I will deploy one heamon on the raider with the warriors somewhere safe, then mover 12" deploy 2" and drop the portal. The other heamons will come in with a unit of wyches and then break off leaving their token.




Any thoughts? Keep in mind this is a themed list, all the talos will be converted wraithlords (marionettes), the wyches are harlies in training (not much converting here), baron will be a solitare on a hover board, the heamons will be warlocks, the warp beast will be the old eldar ghost model, and the razorwings will be razor sharp mechanical cards.


Also what do you think i should do with the last 7 points?

Why razorflails and not +1 Wych? Unless my maths are off you have the spare points to make that happen and it will be better for you both with HWG uses and also just raw survivability and damage output as well.

That's a good point, my only consern was not having enough room to place them when they come out of the wwp, but its probably not a big deal. Any other suggestions?


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The extra wyche would cost 2 points more per squad. So I am going to be 3 points short at the end. Any idea on how to skim the last few points?

Anyone? Its been a couple of days and no help =P

Single Raider? That's going to get blown up mate. Stick at all infantry as it's not hard to down a paper boat. I would also bulk up those Wyches or join units because they won't take a huge amount of fire power to kill and in close combat they will struggle considering they are only S3. Have you considered the Cronos so it can give pain tokens out? Seems a must in a foot list to me.

Its only there for DoW missions, any other mission it just comes in off the board edge and takes shots at armor until its dead. As for the wyches they are used to tie up units and grind them down. Since they are coming out of a portal they should be locked into combat before anyone can shoot them.

This looks like a lot of fun to play. I think you're right to choose 3 talos instead of any chronos, since you don't have any large units that would really benifit from your pain tokens. And plus, your haemies can go join up with wyches and give them their tokens after they drop their portals, since the harlequins don't care about the token.

I would consider giving a TL haywire blaster to one or two of the talos. As it stands, all of your tank killing (except the raider's DL) needs to be within at most 9 inches to work. The haywire blasters will give you some range and give you a much higher chance at disabling those tanks that you really don't want to be shot by. Personally I think the talos benefits from the haywire blaster way more than the heat lance, since it can really only kill a tank that is within 9 inches with the heat lance, and if the tank is within 6 inches you can just charge it and have a much higher change at killing it.

I would give those 5 warriors a venom instead of a raider, its easier to hide.

I assume your baron is going with the beast pack. Maybe you should beef it up a little more. Its only 9 models right now, I think it would greatly benefit from one or two more beast masters and their beasts.

Have you considered giving your harlequins a death jester? I think the death jester brings something unique to the dark eldar codex, which is a weapon that fills a roll similar to an autocannon. They will be invaluable if you run into more dark eldar, orks, or even razorback spam, any opponent with multiple low armor vehicles. True, the whole unit must sacrifice their run move so the jester can shoot, but since its 24 inch range, they can hang back and remain a comfortable distance in their veil of tears. And I think the cons of a death jester are outweighed by how badass the guy is. Since you plan on modeling this army extensively, I know you'd have fun making three distinct death jesters, and I think they would make your army unique both in appearance and in combat.

So where would you find the points for the beasts and the jesters? Maybe you should drop 1 haemie and 1 harlequin squad. Three webway portals seems a bit superfluous.

Good luck!

I figure its all or nothing on long rang anti tank. If I can not effectively place my portal within charge distance of the beasts or withing firing distance for the reavers then I shouldn't be playing this list at all.

I can't give them a venom because then the heamon would not be able to ride during DoW.


I thought about running jesters but at 2500 points I figured getting an extra portal were its needed outweighed the risk. That being said I might proxy it up and try it both ways.

Clthomps wrote:Its only there for DoW missions, any other mission it just comes in off the board edge and takes shots at armor until its dead. As for the wyches they are used to tie up units and grind them down. Since they are coming out of a portal they should be locked into combat before anyone can shoot them.

That will be first turn then or first time it comes on for the Raider then . 5 Wyches probably won't tie up much, nothing serious anyway. You would have to assault with multiple units. Also consider once you've lost the first Wych everytime after you lose a Wych you will be taking morale tests.

There are 7 models in each wyche unit, 8 if I can cut 3 points. I am not sure were you are getting the number 5 from.


As for the raider I thought I was clear, one heamon rides it during dow missions only, so that I can drop a portal halfway up the board first turn.

Ah! I am not reading properly. Your unit says 6 Wyches, 1 razor flalis 1 hexaktrix. This looked like there was just 6 Wyches only per unit.

You said the Raider was for anti tank and to drop a portal off. It's only going to drop a portal off. It's not going to be much use of anti tank, because lets face it it's only going to get one shot.

Have you considered that two Haemonculi can join the same Harlequin unit? If you stretch that unit out to maximum coherency and put the Haemonculi on the edges, you will still be able to deploy two portals far enough away from each other to reach most of the board. It will also free up some points and an Elites slot, which you could fill with 4 X trueborn with blasters. They are one of my most important units in a WWP list, being able to come out of the portal with a 24" threat range to blow up transports and heavy vehicles.

Edit: I can see that you are equipping your Harlequin units for close combat, but also consider a ranged, screening role for them. I treat them as mobile terrain for my army, and they screen my trueborn to give them a cover save. With a death jester and a couple Haemonculi with hex rifles, they also provide a unique shooting role, and you are very correct that a 24" strength 6 weapon fills a very noticable void in an army consisting of poisoned weapons that can't hurt vehicles.

I thought of using hex rifles with a death jester but hex rilfes are terrible mathematically.


First you have to hit a multi-wound target.

Then Wound it.

Then it has to fail its save.

Then it has to fail its W test.


That's four rolls that have to go your way in order to do anything. On top of that the death jest would have to shoot at the same unit, instead of taking out light tanks.




As for the trueborn I do keep debating on whether or not to use them. I know they are great but I find it hard to fit the harlie theme.

I find your harlies will take a lot of fire in your opponents first turn, esp if he starts. What do you do if you fail your portals?

All in all I like the list. It looks like a lot of fun to play, and I love painting harlies! Looks like something my current army cold evolve in to!

Clthomps wrote:
As for the trueborn I do keep debating on whether or not to use them. I know they are great but I find it hard to fit the harlie theme.

Hmmm... you could model death jesters as trueborn? There used to be a death jester model supplied with a bright lance, so they're not just limited to using shuriken cannons.

Ogrrr wrote:I find your harlies will take a lot of fire in your opponents first turn, esp if he starts. What do you do if you fail your portals?

All in all I like the list. It looks like a lot of fun to play, and I love painting harlies! Looks like something my current army cold evolve in to!

They will not take a lot of fire, if any at all... Have you read the rules for the shadow seer? Even indirect fire has to roll to shoot at them.






As for death jesters I was thinking of using them for the one warrior squad, but If I do end up only running two portals then they I will use them for the trueborn and find something else to represent warriors.