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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 07:01:44
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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This has been bothering me and my friends for quite some time now, and i would love to get it clarified.
When you are standing and shooting, do you only get one shot or can you use multiple shots? I know that you can't use special shots, i.e. magic, and it would apear to me that the rules for multiple shots have moved from the units to the weapons?
All in all a little help with this would be nice please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 08:46:58
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It retains all the same rules it had otherwise. If it's poison, it's still poison. Multiple shots is just a special rule to the weapon. It would suck a lot to have a D6 multiple shot be reduced to a single shot. I believe you can even make Sniper attacks. The Charge Reaction defines it as simply a normal shooting attack that is out of sequence (and with penalties).
That said, you're -2 doing it and it can't be Slow to Load. So no Leadbelchers.
Daemon Flamers have a D6 shot attack. It also says "this attack is treated as a normal missile weapon (and may therefore stand and shoot)..." All its special rules still apply to their stand and shoot, so it's flaming/magic/D6.
So yes, you can take extra shots. But if it's just D2 sometimes it might might not be worth the extra penalty, you'll need to do the math.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 13:02:43
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Cosmic Joe
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You can indeed use poison and multiple shots freely, they specifically FAQ-ed sniper not to work though.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 14:53:55
Subject: Re:A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Regular Dakkanaut
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mathhammer says its always worthwhile to double shot, but if your target number is 5 or 6 without the double shot it is a net of 0 increased average hits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 19:07:49
Subject: Re:A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Fixture of Dakka
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Actually, there is a tiny chance that you will wind up with more hits with multishot than you could possibly have fired with single shots. It may be statistically insignificant, but it is still possible. Thus, it is always better to multishot.
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CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 19:43:43
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Didn't know about Sniper being FAQed.
With all the stacking penalties, it IS possible to have shots go from (super unlikely) to impossible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/14 23:37:31
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Unless you are firing poison weapons, when being able to hit on 6's still can make it better to NOT fire multi shots...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 00:54:34
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
Victoria B.C.
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Sniper works dosnt it its just an extra minus one?
And yes stand and shoot works well with multi shot especially dark elves with repeater bows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 04:53:20
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Cosmic Joe
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Page 75 – Sniper
Change “A model making a[...]” to “unless making a Stand
and Shoot charge reaction, a model making a[...]” at the start
of the third paragraph.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 06:40:12
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Ok thx guys, it was in other words just as i suspected it.
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 16:25:43
Subject: A touch up on standing and shooting needed
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Fixture of Dakka
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nosferatu1001 wrote:Unless you are firing poison weapons, when being able to hit on 6's still can make it better to NOT fire multi shots...
Good point there.
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