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So is it conceivable that some of the new Necrons could be swayed to join the "other" Neutral faction, Tau, and the Greater Good?

This is gonna get some good responses.

Necrons hate all life, so probably no.
Also, what do you mean by Necrons or Tau being nuetral?

Necrons aren't as blatantly evil as they used to be, they're now a relatively neutral faction that will do whatever it wants to. Same with the Tau, they aren't usually portrayed as "bad guys".

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Necrons aren't as blatantly evil as they used to be, they're now a relatively neutral faction that will do whatever it wants to. Same with the Tau, they aren't usually portrayed as "bad guys".

Some still are and to a greater or lesser degree they hate/ are jealous of all life.


Nom

My new theory is that the Aun are actually necrons who assumed new bodies so that they could live as gods.

Even though you have two fractions who are known to work with other fractions. I still find it hard to think of reasons for the two to be in any form of permanent alliance.

Thanks to Ward fluff, there are now Necrons who could very well join the Greater Good.

Harriticus wrote:Thanks to Ward fluff, there are now Necrons who could very well join the Greater Good.

Excuse me?

Great! now I have to worry about Necrons touching our drones in unacceptable ways.......naughty necrons,

Possible in the new fluff, but still very unlikely. It would be like the USA joining Cuba or something. The Necron, like the Eldar, are so far beyond most of the rest of the Galaxy they see most other races as little more than monkeys with fancier rocks to throw.

That being said, my favorite part of the new fluff, i.e. senility, can excuse an awful lot in hilarious ways. Yeah, I would go with senile Necron Lord.

Campbell1004 wrote:

Harriticus wrote:Thanks to Ward fluff, there are now Necrons who could very well join the Greater Good.

Excuse me?

New Necron Fluff makes it clear that while some Necrons may pursue expansionist policies there are others who may decide to live peacefully with other races in a quest to get their flesh bodies back or fight against the Eldar. Newcrons have a high sense of honor and respect as well.

As I recall from the fluff the Necrons want to reclaim their empire (Except for the ones who still want to harvest squishies to eat, or just want to kill off all life), including from those filthy lesser beings who have inhabited their planets. I rather doubt they would join willingly with someone they are more than likely to deem as an inferior race.

nomotog wrote:My new theory is that the Aun are actually necrons who assumed new bodies so that they could live as gods.

Even though you have two fractions who are known to work with other fractions. I still find it hard to think of reasons for the two to be in any form of permanent alliance.

The aun were created by the eldar.

tin foil hat time...

hmmm eldar or necrons as fairy god parents..i will take necrons..less flighty and easier colors on the eyes, brights make me quesy.

Only rumors as to Ethereal origins, so take your pick and put your tin foil hoodie on.

Andilus Greatsword wrote:So is it conceivable that some of the new Necrons could be swayed to join the "other" Neutral faction, Tau, and the Greater Good?

This is gonna get some good responses.

Fluff wise - NO.
You own NEcron Tomb World - Why not.

I'd consider it more likely some tomb worlds accept the Tau as some kind of Vassal state of their own empire. Given the apparent mass of tomb worlds around and the relative youth of the tau empire it'd be like taking a child under their wing instead of listening to what the child says should be done.

While its not impossible, the new codex says that "the vast majority" of Necron Lords and Overlords(who command the Tombworlds armies btw) still enjoy launching campaigns of genocide.

I think the arrogance of both sides would lead to conflict, personally.

Melcavuk wrote:I'd consider it more likely some tomb worlds accept the Tau as some kind of Vassal state of their own empire. Given the apparent mass of tomb worlds around and the relative youth of the tau empire it'd be like taking a child under their wing instead of listening to what the child says should be done.

I say combine senility, gross naivete, and poor communication with this idea, the best parts of both factions fluff . Go with the oft repeated idea that the Tau look something like the Necrontyr.

The semi-senile Phaeron thinks he's still in the succession wars. The Tau send communications to the Tomb world to open up diplomatic relations, and the Lord interprets this as a vassal reporting in. He now see's the Tau as a vassal in the succession wars, and the Tau go back ecstatic that the Necrons have seen the error of their ways (after that little murder everybody incident) and start pretending the Tomb World is a member state. Further Tau messengers that don't get lucky enough to encounter the crazy lord get murdered, but they figure that is just a cultural thing, or maybe they are being treated as honored guests or something.

The fluff continues where they pretty much never interact except for the Necrons very occasionally pop into a battle on the Tau's side when the Lords senility kicks in and he thinks it's the succession wars again and the Tau are fighting the traitors.

There, grimdark, hiliarty, and very little fluff rape.

riplikash wrote:Go with the oft repeated idea that the Tau look something like the Necrontyr.

An idea that has no fluff basis what so ever, as GW have no pictures of the Necrontyr

riplikash wrote:

Melcavuk wrote:I'd consider it more likely some tomb worlds accept the Tau as some kind of Vassal state of their own empire. Given the apparent mass of tomb worlds around and the relative youth of the tau empire it'd be like taking a child under their wing instead of listening to what the child says should be done.

I say combine senility, gross naivete, and poor communication with this idea, the best parts of both factions fluff . Go with the oft repeated idea that the Tau look something like the Necrontyr.

The semi-senile Phaeron thinks he's still in the succession wars. The Tau send communications to the Tomb world to open up diplomatic relations, and the Lord interprets this as a vassal reporting in. He now see's the Tau as a vassal in the succession wars, and the Tau go back ecstatic that the Necrons have seen the error of their ways (after that little murder everybody incident) and start pretending the Tomb World is a member state. Further Tau messengers that don't get lucky enough to encounter the crazy lord get murdered, but they figure that is just a cultural thing, or maybe they are being treated as honored guests or something.

The fluff continues where they pretty much never interact except for the Necrons very occasionally pop into a battle on the Tau's side when the Lords senility kicks in and he thinks it's the succession wars again and the Tau are fighting the traitors.

There, grimdark, hiliarty, and very little fluff rape.

That's actually a really funny idea, if someone were to do a Tau-Necron team up then that would be some brilliant fluff.

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:Great! now I have to worry about Necrons touching our drones in unacceptable ways.......naughty necrons,

Yes...

riplikash wrote:Possible in the new fluff, but still very unlikely. It would be like the USA joining Cuba or something. The Necron, like the Eldar, are so far beyond most of the rest of the Galaxy they see most other races as little more than monkeys with fancier rocks to throw.

This too.


Necrons want respect and tribute...from those they deem worthy.

Tau fall into the " cleanse the world that belongs to us from this species " case . > Ka' Mais.

The chances to sit upon a tomb world have multiplied since codex necrons gave them millions of Tomb worlds.( codex necron page 17 ).
Necrons consider no one their equal. They may accept obedience.
Look closely at Trazyn. That Tau icon there .....
Surely he has a few samples of Tau in his collection....if they are a collectors range worthy of his attention.

Codex necrons page 25:
813.M41 Escape from Cano'var
Nemesor Zanndrekh invades the Tau world Cano'var. After 2 weeks any resistance is broken and the defenders routed.
The incoming white scars ( 1/2 company ) aren't able to overwhelm the occupying necron forces and their captain is taken as POW.
This world belongs now to the necrons.
Only 2 prisoners manage to escape, the WS captain and a Eldar. ( in a stolen Tau ship ...).

Doesn't sound like alliance or becoming a vassal.

Codex Necrons page 25:
829.M41 Aryand
A hive world invaded by necrons. The imperial governor aepts the terms of the overlord and Aryand becomes a slave world.

Pretty much establishes some overlords accept certain worlds in their service. As slaves...

Codex Necrons page 27.
955.M41 alliance at devils crag
The silent king aliies with the Blood Angels to defeat a tyranid splinter fleet.

Alliances are possible.

Codex necrons page 55.
Imotekh the stormlord
Four score tomb worlds lie under his regal command and five times as many alien held planets pay direct or indirect tribute - the number of alien civilizations imotekh has destroyed during his campaigns cannot easily be counted.

.....

Rumors of a sinister power on the march have reached even the Tau empire tough,as ever, theri prevailing interpretation is one of opportunity, rather than threat.


So Imotekh has lots of vassals yet and uncounted destroyed opponents...
The Tau in this picture seem to believe its an opportunity, but it may be another "cultural exchange" like they had with DE.

Codex necron page 58 :
Trazyn the infinite

Even on ork held planets, Tau sept worlds, and human colonies, where his dealings are conducted strctly through mindshackled Cats paws,......


Trazyn collects Tau. Good for them. If they ever manage to get themselves killed by too many offers of freindship to hostile predators, Trazyn will keep their existance remembered. To himself until he open his collection for visitors to show off...

Codex necrons page 62:
Anrakyr the traveller

"I am not capricious, nor am I given to cruel acts for their own sake. Its simply a fact that you and your kind have tresspassed ,and thus
invited extermination. Curse you for putting me to this inconvenience."
Anrakyr the traveller to Tau etheral Aun'taniel prior to the harvest of Ka'Mais.


Extermination is an option. Extermination of Tau an inconvenience.


The necrons aim to conquer this galaxy anew, they plan to kick the nids out and generally oppose Eldar and Orks.
I would say its possible for anyone who isn't a nid, elf, ork or minion of the warp to either pay tribute and live or to be part of a temporary alliance against said enemys of the necrons, depending on the overlord in charge.

Necrons don't consider any of the intelligent races in the galaxy to be worth dealing with. That's stated directly in the new codex.