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Got a league starting up here local we are starting out at 500 pts Im running Ultra Marines.

Need some good ideas as we have limitations as follow's:

No 2+ saves
No Characters
No 4+ wound models
No armor over 44 on a single model all sides combined.
1 selection from each list eg....1 Elite 1 Heavy and so on, aside from the forced orginzation of 1HQ 2 Troops.

Anyone got any good or ok idea's ?

I read the 500 pt land raider thread, I thought it was cool as well but yes 1/2 pts for a vehicle is expensive and could be costly.


Thanks in advance.

do you ahve to avhe at least 1 of every force organization slot beyond 1HQ and 2 troops? Also the limit against 2+ saves is a stupid rule anyone playing marines should never have agreed to. On the Armour rule does it count side armour twice?

Pony, this is a relatively standard small-game restriction. You can't get Artificer Armor or Terminator Armor, but you don't really need it for games this size (there aren't all that many things that ignore a 3+ save that don't ignore a 2+ save, and your opponent won't have any of either at this points level).

Taking a Land Raider would be overkill, methinks; I'd take a Predator if you have your heart set on taking a vehicle (relatively tough, and 2 Heavy Bolters and an Autocannon can take on most any infantry or light vehicles), one Tactical Squad (las/melta for handling vehicles) and one Scout Squad (cheap extra Troops choice) to fill your Troops requirement, a Librarian for HQ, and you've got enough points left for transports or a Land Speeder to add mobility.

Couple of razorbacks?

Why not a bike list? T4(5) is tricky to come against.

Both of those write themselves.

Choose another codex?

Tactical Marines in Razorbacks, a Chaplain with an Assault Squad and then maybe some sniper scouts?

@ Anomander: Thanks I like it, thank you for your time.



@ Lord_Vader: Nice !

What are your thoughts on a Libby vs the Chaplain ?

OK I've taken some of each of your's and came up with this what do you think?


HQ - Chaplain

Troop-1 Scouts Snipers & ML

Troop-2 Scouts Shotguns Sgt CM Land Speeder Storm

Dev Squad- 4 ML

Pts: 498

Tactics: Chaplain to Defend Dev Squad. Dev Squad press the mech on the board, and hordes.

Scouts: Snipers suppress & pin troops.

Scouts in the LSS: Deep Strike behind lines, press the pinned troops or boost where needed.

5 sniper shots

5 shotguns

5 missle launchers

1 melta

1 Heavy Bolter

2 Bolters