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For right now, I am pretty stuck.
Moving from 40K list building to WHFB list building is pretty rough. There are literally dozens of options for many units, not to mention that WoC have a style that I have no experience with. So I will need Dakka's opinions and experiences to help me with this list. So far I have:

1 Lvl 4 Sorcerer Lord with MoT, will need some help with the options
3x 10-man Warrior groups with full command and +1 hand weapons and MoK
1x Chaos Knight group with full command and MoK
2x Hellcannons

Now, I know that this does not add up to 2500. Its somewhere in the 1300-1400 area, but I am truly stuck. I am not sure what to add, what options, or what I should change.
I would like my Core to be completely made up of Warriors.

Should I add more Warriors and have an impenetrable wall of black iron? A Hero? Chosen?

Ok so you are sort of heading the right direction.

I personally like my lvl4 caster to be

Lvl4 405 (with stream)
mot
Tali of preservation
Charmed shield
Power familiar
Disc of tz
And sometimes stream of corruption.

If you use him properly he will be in the enemy back field turn 2 casting at what ever he wants.

You really want a bsb they are good.

Its not an all mok army I see so I will make some suggestions.

18 Warriors 376
Mok
Halberds and shields (shields used against shooting)
fc
Flaming banner.

18 Warriors 358
Mot
Shields
fc
Rapturous standard

The mok is your hammer and the mot is your anvil. If those tz guys are within the bsbs re roll range they have a super low chance of running if they loose combat.
They usually wont tho. With a 3+ 5+ and their high ws and their t4.

Also ahw is not that great +1 attack for the front guys. Halberds give you one less attack but being str 5 means -2 to armor and you wound things more easily.

I would suggest.
3x5 hounds 90

These force the enemy deploy his units before you and that way lets you choose your match ups more this can help you win a game. It helps you get ideal match ups.
They are also re directors so you can put them in front of your warriors for cover and if you place them angled the in the way of enemy units you can get a nice flank charge set up, and warriors in the flank is a combat the warriors just devastate.

For knights I have had success with.
5 knights
mok
banner musician
+1 movement banner.

Run these guys up a flank usually and then turn 2 you could have them set up for a flank charge which they do really well.

If you are running a lvl 4 tz I suggest running a lvl 2 support caster with infernal puppet.
The reason is pandaemonium is a great spell and if not dispelled can hurt the opponents magic phase badly any doubles being a miscast and you get to modify it by d3 is really good.

I run a support caster with third eye of tz and puppet as well as hes a lvl 2 with mot so he can steal other peoples spells and still get +3 to cast them.

The 2 hellcannons are pretty nice to have just try to not make them explode near your guys that usually hurts a lot.

I suggest you check out the link below that should help a bit.

But to recap bigger warriors units (18 to 24 is common 6 wide) 18 works for me personally.

Halberds> AHW.

Knights dont need a champ unless a lord or hero is with them.

A bsb is a must.

Lvl2 support caster is helpful.

Hounds are good.

After considering the above see what you come up with and fill in the rest of the points with warriors.

Ok, the help is MUCH appreciated
When I update the list, I will post it here.
Also, by "Flaming Standard", do you mean the one that makes their attacks flaming attacks?
Or do you mean the "Blasted Standard"?

The banner of eternal flame because of it denies regen.

I'm also new to fantasy and I wanted a whole warrior army as well, but due to the my monetary budget the most economical thing for me is buying a pair of batallions which have lots of marauders and i must say, following cowpow configurations they work great, shields + MoT makes them able to hold any unit you want in place while you deal with the rest of the army with your warriors, besides they are really cheap.

That being said, I've found that Warriors with MoN, halberds, shields and Banner of Rage work pretty well too, maybe it's because 2 of my 3 matches have been vs ogres, but having them at WS2 vs my warrior's WS5 is awesome that unit just wiped anything that crossed their path.

Lastly I highly recommend reading the whole cowpow guide, and the supporting sorcerer with infernal puppet is a must, it also helps you avoid some awful miscats on your own sorcerers as well. I tried a unmarked sorcerer with lore of death as well it did a pretty good job since you can't cast spells on combat except augments and hexes, death helps your warriors to achieve victory when facing equally good ccw units.

cowpow16 wrote:The banner of eternal flame because of it denies regen.

Ok, thanks for that. "Flaming Banner" is not very descriptive
But again, thanks for the help.
@Lord Yaula:
The main reason I don't want to do Marauders is because I want a line of armored troops.
Plus I don't really like the look of Marauders


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Alright, here is my new list:
[405] Lvl 4 Sorcerer Lord with MoT, Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, Power Familiar, and Disc of Tzeentch
[200] Lvl 2 Sorcerer with MoT, Infernal Puppet, Third Eye of Tzeentch

[376 PER] 2x 18-man Warrior groups with MoK, FC, halberds and shields, Banner of Eternal Flame
[376] 18-man Warrior group with MoT, FC, halberds and shields, Rapturous Standard
[36 PER] 2x 6-strong Warhound groups

[285] 5-man Knight group with MoK, musician, standard bearer, Banner of Swiftness

[205 PER] 2x Hellcannons

TOTAL: 2500 Points

You don't need 6 hound 5 per unit is enough.
A bsb is needed because you could loose a unit of warriors if you have a bad round of combat.
Drop 1 cannonfor a bsb minerings in around 200 so that way you have some room to experiment.

Doesn't a full command include the BSB? Or is there a difference between a BSB and standard bearer?

By bsb I mean an exalted hero with the 25 point upgrade.

Banners and the bsb are different bsbs let you re roll all ld tests within 12 inches check the heros section you will find it.

Ah, ok. Yeah, that is a significantly different

Yuppers.

I run mine with mot biting blade tali of endurance dragon helm iron curse and a shield.
2+ armor 4+ ward 1+ ward against flaming attacks.

Hes pretty solid.

Thats just an idea. He works with my army build and hey now you have a starting point in case you didnt have anything to go off of.

Ok, I will update my list some more, and get back to you.

i would refrain from taking 2 hellcannons for two reasons:

1) people wont want to play you.

2) alot of tournaments will stop you doing it in its restrictions.

Maybe consider converting yourself up a warshrine.

Hellcannons are that good?
Then yeah, will switch one out for a Shrine.

Hellcannons are pretty good. I take two because they are funny.
I placed the template of the hellcannon and saying these guys were going to die but my remembered to take my ld test so I took it, hellcannon decided to say nope not gonna shoot, and then charged into a unit if zombies. The turn after that the other hellcannon failed its ld test and charged into the unit of skeles that charged the first hellcannon. It was silly fun, I see how they can be competitive but if you are playing for fun they can be loads of fun.

I am mainly playing for fun, and I have always loved artillery.
In AoE3 I always play as the Ottomans

Also, I do not plan on going to tourneys anytime soon, so will not have to worry about those things.

Ive used a hellcannon a couple of times and found they are pretty good. Used one in conjunction with pandaemonium and made a horde of 100 NGs run away turn 1. I think people are mostly afrid of that sort of thing....

I am more of a purist and want to take as many warriors as tactically possible. Marauders are out, except some marauder horsies to deal with war machines and the like. Il probably end up changing my list around a fair bit but I wanted something different too empire.

WoC being different then Dark Eldar is the main reason why I want to play as them.

Oh ya tz magic and hellcannon is like hot chocolate and marshmallows really goood
Did something similar to a WE player his big unit of archer guys with mage and other crazy stuff decided to peace turn 2.

Hc are good it just depends how you use them if you are trolling the whole game they are not fun if you are having fun they are good and do funny things.

Haha yes woc are they are slower in movement but can take a hit and when they get to hit not much stays around other than big scary things but those get hurt... real bad.

By "tz" do you mean Tzeentch?

Yes. Sorry for that.

Ok, thanks!
I'm looking at other armies, and based solely on their look, I like Brettonia and the Empire.

Bretonnians are out dated so playing as them will be a challenge.

Empire is pretty cool lots of options and such.

Is it possible for an Empire army to have mainly elite units? Or are they more of an average size, average strength army?

From what I have seen lots of state troops and for elite it would be great swords and occasionaly knights. Check out some of the empire army lists is the best advice I can give.

Ok. Still like the WoC style of play.