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So here's the issue. Terminator spam is a no brainer, but would it be better to forgo 2 units of terminators for 2 Vernable Dreadnaughts?

If dreads, how would i go about equipong them and using them to support the 6 cyclone terminator squads with TH/SS's?

Terminators.

I shelved my SMs about 11 months ago, but I can tell you I always achieved greater results with terminators, and that when playing against SM I would rather see a dread on the table then a gakload of terminators.

a salvo of pulse rifle shots from behind can kill/useless-ify a dread easily enough. Terminators make a mockery of small arms.

Terminators are more tactically advantageous, though you could loose just one termy squad then get a venerable dread in drop pod to deepstrike behind enemy lines. That's sure to cause some disruption and draw fire away from your terminators

I roughly spend half your points on termies and then look elsewhere.

Personally dreads do not give you enough different options than termies.
Typhoons are cheap and preds have more firepower both would be choice before dreads.

Slightly guessing your list here .

I agree with M Fletch, mix it up. A versatile unit is nice for fighting different apponent types. BUT having units of specualised units, are better imo.

Honestly I am wondering the same thing, 2 Dreadnaughts homin-beacon into the enemy deployment zone with some storms, OR dreadnaught Termies in the back line.

Also thinking deep strike more in the back or move them center stage in a land Raider?...

1 Dread with las and auto cannon to support and one with a heavy bolter or two and cc wepons

What I'll usually do is DS 3 in someones face or back away if i think its unsafe and shoot the crap out of them with cyclones. Reason I used dreads with las's was for LR's and russes. I don't like my enemy owning the tempo of the game. I'll usually give him first turn amd reserve all (including the dreads depending on his actions before game) and having that LR move up field and pull a slippery move and DS the other side. then when he's rolling over to take out those termies who are beating face, the others drop in behind making him either dedicate to those guys or turn around in frustration. TLLC would be shooting at that landraider when its doing a dance in the middle of the board

Terminators most certainly. Which would you rather have? Two 5 man Squads of killing machines, or 2 killing machines.

As soon as you're no longer an all-termy army, you lose the advantages of being all infantry - your opponent suddenly has valuable vehicles to shoot at, instead of 'wasting' lascannon shots on a single termy. So I'd either stick with all termies, or go for a general mixed army.

Lord Rogukiel wrote:Terminators are more tactically advantageous, though you could loose just one termy squad then get a venerable dread in drop pod to deepstrike behind enemy lines. That's sure to cause some disruption and draw fire away from your terminators

That is what I love doing, my dread pulls off with a multimelta for sure. w/e other weapon is your choice. If will draw in fire and won't kill you in points. If your lucky you might even bust a tank or something expensive. Your Terms should be in close distance to come in and mop up. Mob armies hate when I pull the dread drop off with flamers and wipe out a massive amount of boyz or guardsmen and route them.

Clang wrote:As soon as you're no longer an all-termy army, you lose the advantages of being all infantry - your opponent suddenly has valuable vehicles to shoot at, instead of 'wasting' lascannon shots on a single termy. So I'd either stick with all termies, or go for a general mixed army.

No. Deathwing with only termies is bad, unless you mean dualwing as pure infantry list in which case you should make this point clearer.

Getting somewhere now. I understand the point of giving those lascannons a purpose. When people usually see all termies they go "well there goes my anti tank." When I ran the 2 dreads it went kind of well, but that was just 3 games..