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How strickt are you when playing the game? Would you allow me to move some dudes that I forgot to move in the movement phase, if shots have already been fired? (and if the moving didnt make a difference for the shooting phase), or could i still shoot if i have already moved my models into an assault? (again suppose it woulnd make a difference in the asault)
Becaue generally, I tend to forget things like these once or twice a game. Now there are numerous people out there who dont mind and even forget more that I do (and it starts to grow annoying), but others wont let me shoot with my kommandos if I have declared the assault phase.

I think its okay if it doesnt occur all the time, otherwise the game gets messed up and boring.

Assume we're talking about a game in a FLGS, tourneys and games against newbies are a different matter imho

I went with Kinda Strict but ... it would really depend on when the opponent remembered what they forgot and how much of my next turn has been completed.

If they remember pretty close to when they needed to do the original action, then I doubt I will complain.

If its well into my turn, then sorry ... unless I get an all new turn, which is rare.

Kind of strict. I don't want to ruin the fun of the game, but when people cheat, lie or generally disobey the rules, it makes the game miserable.

I usually don't mind. I match what my opponent wants on that front because I can enjoy the full spectrum of competitiveness.

It is a dick move to be allowed to do it then deny the opponent.

It depends what it is.

Playing fantasy, I will forget to move something cause I got so drawn in with a charge.

Messed up a few things last night playing. We both forgot that my opponent needed to take fear tests every round of close combat. This could have greatly worked in my favor.

I forgot to roll on the miscast table after getting some box cars, that would have worked GREATLY in his favor.

All in all we were just playing a couple small fun games, and we both learned. As long as people learn, it isn't too bad. I have thought about making some damn tokens though so I know what moved, what shot, and what assaulted and what not. So many times in 40k I will shoot, then go to assault for some reason (I play guard... we never do that), forgetting that I can't after using lasguns.

MrMerlin wrote:How strickt are you when playing the game?

How empty is the rest of your life?

dumbuket wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:How strickt are you when playing the game?

How empty is the rest of your life?

How hollow is the cavity where your soul was before asking that?

Rule 1, have fun. But FFS remember the rules. I don't know them off by heart and I will give someone a couple of courtesy mulligans, but only a couple. Playing this weekend I forgot to shoot with my Pink Horrors prior to declaring assaults. Because I forgot, I gave up the ability to shoot. My opponent might have let it slide, but I didn't. It takes honesty on both players part.

It depends on what it is that has been overlooked.

If at the end of the turn you want to role for reserves then that is too late.

I completely agree with Tronzor. If I forget its my fault for being a lame field commander and I deserve to lose if that's what it means. I don't ask for mulligans but if granted I will accept. Like wise if its in the same player turn and its a matter of forgetting to move or shoot in the phase and we are not too far along then that is fine by me.

I voted kind of strict. I hold my gaming to a high level of standards. That sounds dickish, but I'm very lenient with my opponents, as I don't hold them to the same standard I hold myself. They're playing for different reasons than I am and I don't want to ruin their experience by imposing my standards on them. However, I do expect my opponent to know the rules of the game and to make as few mistakes as possible.

I make mistakes all the time and never ask to take them back. It's just part of the game. If my opponent makes mistakes and ask to take them back, I typically have no issue with it, I just ask them to make sure to not make the same mistake again. After so many "take-backs" I eventually apologize and say that they've made their move and need to live with it, more so when it's a very similar mistake each time. I don't like being a jerk, but it should be considered a learning experience for the person making the mistake.

In a tournament setting though, it's a no go. Tournaments are where you bring your A game and your best lists. There is no place for "takesies backsies" in a tournament.

I do my best to follow the rules, though I'm certainly not perfect at it. I try to learn a little something with every game.

As to my opponent, so long as they give it an honest shot, I'm happy. If I were a good enough player, I might be a little more strict, but as it is, I'm not good enough at the game for a rules call here or a dice roll to make much difference. I'd rather just have a good time and make sure my opponent does likewise.

Strict, I'll remind you of things if I see that you've forgotten but if we both forget... tough beans.

Schnitzel wrote:There is no place for "takesies backsies" in a tournament.

On topic, reminds me of an old trick from the Yu-Gi-Oh! days. "And I'll end my tuuuuuuuuurn (hold out just to make sure you got everything, but crap you forgot something!)... after I set this face down. Your go!" It works wonders

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

dumbuket wrote:

MrMerlin wrote:How strickt are you when playing the game?

How empty is the rest of your life?

How hollow is the cavity where your soul was before asking that?

I see we touched a raw nerve

dumbuket wrote:
I see we touched a raw nerve

Careful, youngling. You know not the dangerous grounds upon which you tread.

As to the thread topic, rule #1 is to have fun. It's a game, after all. But the rules are there for a reason. I don't think people would appreciate if I suddenly declared that my Germans in FoW had recently unlocked the secret of the atomic bomb, and so D-Day never happened, so they lost.

At the same time, I try for the more 'Gentleman-ly gaming' attitude. Oh, you forgot to move that last squad? No problem, go ahead and move it. But I'll expect the same from you in return.

If it affects gameplay then no. You can't move a unit you just shot into an area where it has no line of sight, etc...

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Schnitzel wrote:There is no place for "takesies backsies" in a tournament.

On topic, reminds me of an old trick from the Yu-Gi-Oh! days. "And I'll end my tuuuuuuuuurn (hold out just to make sure you got everything, but crap you forgot something!)... after I set this face down. Your go!" It works wonders

Unfortunately I have had to do that numerous times...Playing apoc battles with over 15000 points of guard means you have to check EVERYTHING...

And no the guard were not mine...

Depends on my opponent. I'll play by the book until I see my opponent be lenient.

If it's someone I already know, I'll be as lenient as I usually am with them. Like, my brother frequently forgets stuff, so I'll let it slide, and he lets gak I do slide. My friend constantly does gak like move front to back to get extra movement, so I call him on everything.

warhams was never designed as a serious, tournament game system. it's a simple set of rules to let you and your friends play space battles with your army mans. if you're getting redface angry over "taksies backsies", then you're missing the point of the experience, *even* during a "tournament game". that also seems to be games workshop's attitude about things, fwiw

I depends on what sort of vibe I get from my opponent. If they are new, or haven't played in a while, I will cut them some slack. But if I get the impression that they're trying to distract me for advantage, it's time to lay down the law.

I'm not strict, really. If its a small issue, I let it pass, after all if I made a mistake they'd let me ammend it too. But if they are either A) donkey-caves, or B) Experienced enough, I call it there.

dumbuket wrote:warhams was never designed as a serious, tournament game system. it's a simple set of rules to let you and your friends play space battles with your army mans. if you're getting redface angry over "taksies backsies", then you're missing the point of the experience, *even* during a "tournament game". that also seems to be games workshop's attitude about things, fwiw

Then explain 'Ard Boyz - a competition run by GW, and quite possibly the most cut-throat event of the Warhammer gaming scene.

And please cut the 4chan speak. You're in a 'civilized' part of the internet now.

Somewhat strict, play by the rules they are there for a reason. That said I don't mind even if my opponent is particularly forgetful if they are equally forgiving to me (I forget a lot of stuff)

Assuming casual game, non-tourney, non-newb.
If you make a mistake and forget something, I won't point it out (it's your job to order your men to action), unless it's something that benefits you (ie: don't forget to make your ld tests when appropiate, etc).
If you do err and ask, and have been great sport, then sure you can go back and make the move...provided we're barely a phase away. If you forgot to move and shoot with unit A and it's assault time...ehh a little too late.
When I forget something, I chalk it up as player error and don't ask for the take back. If it's offered, and it's not too far past, I'll accept your offer and of course offer extend the offer should you need it.
However, generally my gaming buddies and I go "damn we forgot X" *shrug shoulders* and go on.

I voted "Kinda strict", but it honestly depends on a few things.

1) The person I'm playing (in regards to whether I've played them before, or know of them prior to playing).
2) The list they're bringing.
3) The type of player they are.

If I've played them before, and am aware of how competitive they tend to play, as well as how competitive their lists tend to be, I adjust myself in terms of "strictness" to my playing style. I have friends who allow take backs once in awhile, and to these same opponents, I would offer the same leniency. I also have friends who won't give up anything if they can help it, and with these opponents, I'd treat exactly in kind (although I will say that I'd tend to avoid playing such people when I can. That's not to say that they're bad/immature/evil people, but just that when it comes to games, they tend to get a little more than ahead of themselves).

I pretty much follow stormleader...

You can move your late unit iff you are in the start of the shooting phase (one unit shoot) assuming the moving unit will not cause any issues (like LoS)

Same for assault...

Surely it is for casual games.

We are not trained generals with a bunch of advisors telling us what to do (like ours "in game" characters), we are just regular guys who got into the weekend for some fun, those minor mistakes are passable.

It's hard to poll for this because, in my mind, it's a situational answer.

If I'm playing with friends, then it's pretty relaxed, because the goal is to have fun.

If I'm playing in a tournament, then it's strict as possible because the goal is to win.

I also voted Kinda Strict, but as with many people, it's situational. When I'm playing my Tau, for example, I'm pretty strict about unit movement. Most people tend to move their units 7-8" in friendly games instead of 6", and for that particular army getting your Space Wolves across the table faster than is legal is a big deal.

For skipping/forgetting about units though, in friendly games I'm usually ok with letting the other player go ahead with moving or shooting them. I usually try and remind them during the phase anyways, like "hey, are those guys going to to anything this round?". If I do it I chalk it up to me being an idiot again and make a mental note to remember them next turn.

Ouze wrote:It's hard to poll for this because, in my mind, it's a situational answer.

Well, I've given you a situation in the OP

MrMerlin wrote:Assume we're talking about a game in a FLGS, tourneys and games against newbies are a different matter imho