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Tsagualsa wrote:

Okay, sorry for kicking up a fuzz

No one had responded when I started typing and then when I post I had been ninja'd by 3 folks I did take my sweet time though.

Tsagualsa wrote:
Did not see it before, and it looks very well made.

Yeah, its all pretty awesome stuff. Really wish it had been terrain that could be sold. I'd have bought an undead army of some sort just to go with the crazy amount of terrain I'd get.

A. Seraphon won this set of reveals for me, once again.

Yeah, yeah, Lion, 10th ed, blah blah, it all just melts into '6 more months of space marines' to me. Tyranids are cool though.

B. Dawnbringer Crusades are likely to be similar to how the Stormcast Eternals have two ways to build the army: the deep strikey kind, or the defend-the-line kind. The latter get to ally with CoS stuff.

So in this case, Dawnbringer Crusades will be the guys that head out to claim new land and the other kind will be the dudes defending the cities that already exist.

C. Seraphon, holy crap are they awesome. I'm sure that in 4th edition they'll get a basic foot hero as a filler, but then the NEXT update I'd expect new skink troops. If GW can update termagants, they can update the skinks.

The new Lizardmen have me torn. I’ve always been a Southlands guy, the old Oops All Skinks subfaction. It saddens me a little to see so little new stuff for them, while those new Saurus cav look Amazing. Do I stubbornly stick to my ways, or cave and go all cav? I wonder if they’ll have an option to make the cav Battleline…

drbored wrote:

B. Dawnbringer Crusades are likely to be similar to how the Stormcast Eternals have two ways to build the army: the deep strikey kind, or the defend-the-line kind. The latter get to ally with CoS stuff. .

The book is called Cities of Sigmar. Is there army that allies with itself?

tneva82 wrote:

drbored wrote:

B. Dawnbringer Crusades are likely to be similar to how the Stormcast Eternals have two ways to build the army: the deep strikey kind, or the defend-the-line kind. The latter get to ally with CoS stuff. .

The book is called Cities of Sigmar. Is there army that allies with itself?

I think you missed my point.

Book Title: Stormcast Eternals

Allegiance Abilities - Battle Traits:
1. Scions of the Storm - bunch of deep strike stuff
2. Stormkeep - ally with CoS and stuff

Now apply that to Cities of Sigmar:

Book Title: Cities of Sigmar

Allegiance Abilities - Battle Traits:
1. Dawnbringer Crusades - reclaim land, march out to war
2. City Defenders - hold the walls, defend the civilians


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 AduroT wrote:
The new Lizardmen have me torn. I’ve always been a Southlands guy, the old Oops All Skinks subfaction. It saddens me a little to see so little new stuff for them, while those new Saurus cav look Amazing. Do I stubbornly stick to my ways, or cave and go all cav? I wonder if they’ll have an option to make the cav Battleline…

The skinks are in an interesting spot.
On the one hand, Terradons, Ripperdactyls, and the Bastilodon are all really good sculpts. The Stegadon is showing its age. The Skinks are definitely suffering.

On the other hand, we have 2 builds for the new Raptadons, new Skink Starseer, and the recently released Chameleon Skinks.

So there's definitely ways to have plenty of modern skinks in your army, the main thing is the base skink unit. Much like the Dryads for Sylvaneth, it's the one thing that'll hold the faction back for a while longer.

And like Dryads, they’re not a Bad kit, still perfectly serviceable, just not as modern and cool as the newer stuff.

drbored wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

drbored wrote:

B. Dawnbringer Crusades are likely to be similar to how the Stormcast Eternals have two ways to build the army: the deep strikey kind, or the defend-the-line kind. The latter get to ally with CoS stuff. .

The book is called Cities of Sigmar. Is there army that allies with itself?

I think you missed my point.

Book Title: Stormcast Eternals

Allegiance Abilities - Battle Traits:
1. Scions of the Storm - bunch of deep strike stuff
2. Stormkeep - ally with CoS and stuff

Now apply that to Cities of Sigmar:

Book Title: Cities of Sigmar

Allegiance Abilities - Battle Traits:
1. Dawnbringer Crusades - reclaim land, march out to war
2. City Defenders - hold the walls, defend the civilians

Yes that's possible.

There's still no allying cos. Allying is very specific feature. Again: what other book gives negative features? The ally cos wouldn't get for example cos enchantments...no cos spell for cos unit? Don' be silly.

Looks like someone finished building those domicile shells. Picture via TGA from the Khorne book - now it might just be a non-release internal kit but it looks very modular - hopefully full cities will be a thing soon.

I think you're right, those look like stairs under skarbrands wing. I hope so, i'd love a full building kit in the style of the Osgilliath mansion.

So, a minor thing.

But Whitefang has been sure to clarify that Thunderstrike armor is just a new armor mark. The implication of a line of posts is that we may eventually see things like Liberators, Judicators, and other 1st edition Stormcast remade into the Thunderstrike armor...

drbored wrote:
So, a minor thing.

But Whitefang has been sure to clarify that Thunderstrike armor is just a new armor mark. The implication of a line of posts is that we may eventually see things like Liberators, Judicators, and other 1st edition Stormcast remade into the Thunderstrike armor...

Judicators in Thunderstrike would be pretty baller

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I think you're right, those look like stairs under skarbrands wing. I hope so, i'd love a full building kit in the style of the Osgilliath mansion.

2 sets, one under each wing actually. One perpendicular to the walls, one parallel to them.

It would make sense to release new city terrain around the time of new city units.

Death's up, including the mounted wight king out on his own:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/02/sunday-preview-death-conquers-the-mortal-realms/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sunday-preview&utm_content=sundaypreview02042023&fbclid=IwAR1YgLzC9JtM94Y8NqqgB58ntVHyLfpZuh5_lOMAl-vN4PY1xU35eP9ORmI

And is it just me, or are those Vanguard boxes very good?

Bit of a shame the Vargheists are in the Vangaurd boxed set for Vampires. If just because that means that there's likely no update for them on the horizon.
Still kinda holding out hope that Flesheaters get an update and some of their core stuff gets a new version. I'd love to see GW do a new zombiedragon. I'd even accept if the Zombiedragon and Terrorgast were split into separate kits to really focus on the different themes and designs.

That said the Grave Guard no longer being in the starter frees them up and arguably they are the worst looking Vampire models left now. Or at least if not bad looking they are out of date, esp when compared to the regular Deathrattles.


Also for some reason GW UK still shows the Cairn Wraith in the army page


Also are those dragons on the Soulblight dice? Kinda like those dice

The Ossiarch Vanguard is very tempting.

Nice to see that Wight finally get a separate release, wanted one for a while.

Prices

 Overread wrote:
Bit of a shame the Vargheists are in the Vangaurd boxed set for Vampires. If just because that means that there's likely no update for them on the horizon.
Still kinda holding out hope that Flesheaters get an update and some of their core stuff gets a new version. I'd love to see GW do a new zombiedragon. I'd even accept if the Zombiedragon and Terrorgast were split into separate kits to really focus on the different themes and designs.

That said the Grave Guard no longer being in the starter frees them up and arguably they are the worst looking Vampire models left now. Or at least if not bad looking they are out of date, esp when compared to the regular Deathrattles.


Also for some reason GW UK still shows the Cairn Wraith in the army page


Also are those dragons on the Soulblight dice? Kinda like those dice

There have been rumours from HonestWargamer of a FULL Flesh Eater Court remake...

Odds which decrease as 1 key kit(flayer/horror) is uniikely to be updated. Or gw alters vanquard later to have new kit? Replace vanquard in few months? Have options on kit left unused?

Umbros wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Bit of a shame the Vargheists are in the Vangaurd boxed set for Vampires. If just because that means that there's likely no update for them on the horizon.
Still kinda holding out hope that Flesheaters get an update and some of their core stuff gets a new version. I'd love to see GW do a new zombiedragon. I'd even accept if the Zombiedragon and Terrorgast were split into separate kits to really focus on the different themes and designs.

That said the Grave Guard no longer being in the starter frees them up and arguably they are the worst looking Vampire models left now. Or at least if not bad looking they are out of date, esp when compared to the regular Deathrattles.


Also for some reason GW UK still shows the Cairn Wraith in the army page


Also are those dragons on the Soulblight dice? Kinda like those dice

There have been rumours from HonestWargamer of a FULL Flesh Eater Court remake...

I could see it, but again Beasts and Skaven need it far more right now.


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 DaveC wrote:
Prices

It always amuses me when the big old mounted hero is only £2.50 more expensive than the infantry sized character.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

Umbros wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Bit of a shame the Vargheists are in the Vangaurd boxed set for Vampires. If just because that means that there's likely no update for them on the horizon.
Still kinda holding out hope that Flesheaters get an update and some of their core stuff gets a new version. I'd love to see GW do a new zombiedragon. I'd even accept if the Zombiedragon and Terrorgast were split into separate kits to really focus on the different themes and designs.

That said the Grave Guard no longer being in the starter frees them up and arguably they are the worst looking Vampire models left now. Or at least if not bad looking they are out of date, esp when compared to the regular Deathrattles.


Also for some reason GW UK still shows the Cairn Wraith in the army page


Also are those dragons on the Soulblight dice? Kinda like those dice

There have been rumours from HonestWargamer of a FULL Flesh Eater Court remake...

I could see it, but again Beasts and Skaven need it far more right now.

Actually whilst Skaven and Beasts both need a range refresh, they at least have much larger and more diverse model ranges. Flesheaters are literally all in one getting started boxed set plus one finecast model and one plastic leader (and one exclusive limited sale leader). Right now I'd say Flesheaters are the worst army for having had support in AoS and the most dire in need of an update. Even Fyreslayers have had more models added and a wider range.

Flesheaters would also fit well with how GW has focused a lot on Death as a faction.
Ossiarchs and Nighthaunt are all new (or majority so); meanwhile Soulblight has had almost an entire line update with the major part of their core having been updated.

Plus a few things, like the Terrorgast and Zombie dragon builds would upgrade both FE and Soulblight with updated models.

Heck if GW makes a Vanguard boxed set for FE it really would contain the entire army minus the 1 finecast model and their endless spells/terrain.

 Overread wrote:
Bit of a shame the Vargheists are in the Vangaurd boxed set for Vampires. If just because that means that there's likely no update for them on the horizon.

I doubt we’ll get an update on vargheists for a long time. Despite coming out at the end of warhammer fantasy, I still consider them fairly new models and too integral with FEC to get remade without a whole wave of new models. Which is a shame because I think more dynamic models would be great, since these were designed to fit side by side on square bases. Plus, more bat like heads (like in total war) would do wonders for them

Honestly Flesheaters need a range update - they are perhaps the worst off of all the AoS armies to date in terms of model diversity. Even Fyreslayers have it better than them (though there isn't much to it).




Also was grabbing one of the last Start Collecting sets for Soulblight off Wayland games a smart move? I dunno but at least I'll get a mounted king and Black Knights and some (basically) free old-school Grave Guard .
Honestly I was tempted to grab two sets, but held off.

 Overread wrote:
Also was grabbing one of the last Start Collecting sets for Soulblight off Wayland games a smart move? I dunno but at least I'll get a mounted king and Black Knights and some (basically) free old-school Grave Guard .
Honestly I was tempted to grab two sets, but held off.

Maybe? It's a good value for your money, but without seeing the new book god only knows if it'll be any good.

 Overread wrote:
Also was grabbing one of the last Start Collecting sets for Soulblight off Wayland games a smart move? I dunno but at least I'll get a mounted king and Black Knights and some (basically) free old-school Grave Guard .
Honestly I was tempted to grab two sets, but held off.

Well it saves money for sure. Gloomspite gits was the meh one as your only saving is loonboss. But soulblight saves money and goes away so in long run you save money if you were going to add those models anyway.

In terms of rules? New book soon so who knows. Whatabout AOS4? That's out next year. Maybe these models are bad in AOS3 tome but rocks in AOS4 tome? No idea.

If you buy based on rules you are always gambling. They might be OP as hell in AOS3 book and get nerfed month later to death...No way to tell.

So it comes down to do you want to save cash now by buying them

 Overread wrote:


Also was grabbing one of the last Start Collecting sets for Soulblight off Wayland games a smart move? I dunno but at least I'll get a mounted king and Black Knights and some (basically) free old-school Grave Guard .
Honestly I was tempted to grab two sets, but held off.

Judging by how expensive OOP start collecting sets can become, even if they don't contains exclusive models, I don't think you'll regret picking it up

Cursed City scenario https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/04/cursed-city-scenario-take-on-all-of-ulfenkarn-with-one-immeasurably-mighty-hero/

Hmmm, with that nice little download showing a little bit of support, hopefully a Cursed City stat sheet and scenario for the new hero will appear in a WD soon!

That's cute, i'll have to give it a try. Also rather liking the new Soulblight character being a monster debuffer. She'll be an interesting one to experiment with.