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This is the 2.4k version of my Ogre army. In the 3k version (my prefered points level) I'll have 5 units of Mournfang but dropping to 2.4 means I can only take 3 duplicate choices so what to do with the spare 300 points? Well I've invested in my characters a bit more than I would have, so it is a matter of what to do with the last 220 points: Here's the list

LORDS

Slaughter Master: lvl 4: ironfist, Armour of Destiny, Hellheart 383

HEROES

Firebelly: lvl 1: Dispell Scroll 145

Bruiser: BsB: great weapon 141

CORE

Ogres: 18: ironfists, full command, look out gnoblar 611

SPECIAL

Mournfang Cavalry: 4: ironfists, heavy armour, musician standard 300

Mournfang Cavalry: 4: ironfists, heavy armour, musician standard 300

Mournfang Cavalry: 4: ironfists, heavy armour, musician standard 300


So that leaves me 220 points what I was thinking was a problem solving unit. That could character and warmachine hunt (the 2 things of biggest threat to the Mournfangs). So it is either:

Maneaters: 3 with Sniper, Poision: full command, 3 x duel pistols 216

OR

Ironblaster: 170
+ Either- Dragonhide Banner for a unit of Mournfangs 50
or - Obsidian Lobestone for the BsB. 45

I'm shy of taking the dragonhide banner as I'm primarily a 40k player and I don't like having 1 obvious threat unit. Though I'm aware target saturation is of far less importance in Fantasy, though having Magic resistance 3 on my big unit would be usefull.

The basic idea of the list is to create a massive threat that can take the punishment (the big unit of ogres with 3 Characters in it) to distract my opponent from the Mournfangs which will annihilate him. or he concentres on the mournfangs (losing lots of his army in the porcess) and then discovers he's got hardly any victory points and a massive unit of ogres staring down at him.

Then the last points go on the problem solver. The way I see it is the Ironblaster is better against Warmachines, the Maneaters better against Characters (would be great to snipe that Vampire or Hierophant on turn 1). However the Ironblaster is cheaper, but can be one shotted by said warmachines (though that does mean 1 less shot at my Mournfangs or Ogres). I like the Maneater models and rules but the thought of a cannon that can stand and shoot seems too good to pass up .

i'd use the spare points to try and bulk up those mournfang units to 6 which is the best size I've seen them work

Seems a waste of points. Mournfangs are about doing damage I don't want to spend 140 points a unit on ablative wounds. I could beef the units up to 5 each (and still have 10 points spare) but I don't think that will help as much as having some anti-warmachine/character stuff in the army.

Ironblasters are pretty sick, I would take as many as allowed.

So I guess in this case, one

Ironblasters.

Maneaters are just better, more expensive Ogres, nothing they can do couldn't be done by another squad (if less efficiently). Ironblasters do things that beltchers cannot, and tend to rule the table. I prefer more Mournfangs (the answer to so many things), but between the two options given, I would take the blaster and move one model from two of the mournfangs, and put them in the one you give the dragonhide banner to.

Maneaters are just better, more expensive Ogres, nothing they can do couldn't be done by another squad (if less efficiently).

Except character snipe, what else in the army can kill a BsB or Heirophant or Vampire on turn 1 even when they are in a unit? That is the issue the Ironblaster can do it but only if they fail their 2+ look out sir...

But yes I was tending towards the Ironblaster myself. Though I do love that Ninja Maneater model and would then not have an excuse to use him .

I don't want to mix the Mournfang unit sizes. If I'm giving 1 the Dragonhide banner then I'm doing it as a bullseye so the enemy concentrate on that unit hopefully ensuring the others make it into combat unmolested, so putting more models into that unit would be pointless. Though on that front I am tempted by the magic resistance for the big unit (though that does reduce how much of a magic distraction that unit is).

The Ironblaster has more utility.

The Sniper MEs are good, but if they fail they will usually be taken out by the enemy as fast as possable because of the threat they present and that they are some relativly easy VPs exposed to their entire army.

the iBlaster is more useful overall.



Units of 6 mournfangs are not practical. you don't get the killing power out of them that you do with multiple units of 4.

BTW: OP, 3 units of 4 mournfangs is disgusting Why no Dragonhide banner on one unit? its too awsome not to take.

Iron blaster for sure. 4 mournfangs is all you'll ever want to take in a unit and that may be too many depending on your terrain. Ironblaster deals with so many threats that Ogres really can't handle any other way. I don't think I can go without 2 anymore.

The great thing about WHFB is you don't have to tell your opponent what items you have until you spring them on them.

Take the ironblaster and dragonhide banner. I love the ironblaster with or without the controversial stand and shoot, it's a must have unit in any Ogre force.

Yeah I think I've decided on the Ironblaster and Dragonhide Banner. Granted the Ironblaster can be 1 shooted by a cannon (which the Maneaters can't) but that is at least 1 less cannon shooting at my Mournfangs and once you take into account hitting, wounding and doing enough wounds to kill it we are probably looking at 2-3 cannon balls and if it can kill a cannon first that should really help too.

Likewise it can take out Mangler squigs (which I expect to see more of in my area after the cool new model has come out) and other things the rest of my army is ill equiped to deal with.

The dragonhide banner does add a layer and ridiculous killing power to a mounrfang unit and I don't really want the main unit to be anything more than a bullit and magic magnet so giving it magic resistance is pointless. Especially considering all the spells that really worry an Ogre unit ignore magic resistance anyway...

Take the ironblaster and dragonhide banner. I love the ironblaster with or without the controversial stand and shoot, it's a must have unit in any Ogre force.

It's good but no way would I take it in a 3k list (my preferred points level). But then I am spending 1500 points on Mournfang Cavalry in that list...