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Well Hormagaunts aren't going to be 'that' useful I don't think.
I have no experience in running Nidzilla, but its something I want to do in the near future after I've finished my CSM. And also, haven't played 1000 points in years.
But anyway some advice that might be useful:
Tervigons, the staple of a Nidzilla list (or any Nid list) nowadays I think. They aren't that killy, but they do their job very well.
Trygons, better value for points than Carnifexes in most cases.
Tyrannofexes are way to expensive for 1000 points, probably not really worth taking until 2000+ points to be honest.
Hive Tyrants, again just seems expensive for 1000 points and to be honest the only way I have seen then work is for troop support, or taking a Swarmlord for assault power.
I'm not going to have a go at making a 1000 points Nidzilla army, because i just don't see it being effective. Although MCs are tough to take down, so maybe it can work. Would probably try something like 2 Tervigons, 4-6 Hive Guard (they are like mini MCs anyway) and a Trygon with some gaunts (or Gargoyles) to fill out. Not really many MCs though, could not have the Hive Guard or Trygon and go with 2/3 Fexes...
Nidzilla at 1000pts? Ummm... good luck... Here's the best I can come up with that's are pure-Nidzilla as I can get (like, I'm not going to try to spam Gaunts or anything, I'm going to get as much T6 as I can):
I only see Scything Talons on 2 of the Tervigons in Stelek's list... so did everyone just forget to take these? Or are the Scything Talons just a hidden cost that people don't bother including?
Please tell me I'm missing something here....
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"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown." - Lawrence Walsh, Chinatown
I just happened to go look in the Army Lists section and found 5-6 lists that were also ignoring that. Yay for netlisting confusing people. 2-3 "master" lists get it wrong, and everyone follows in their footsteps.
My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
Just because they omit the 'may' in some cases does not make these OPTIONS mandatory. In cases where one or more items have to be selected, it is clearly specified that you must do so. 'Take one of the following:' simply means that you cannot choose to take more than one. If Tervigons were meant to have one or the other they would have Scything Talons with the option to upgrade them to Crushing Claws. Same thing with Mycetic Spores and their weapons.
If you assume the omission of 'may' translates into having to take an option, all Hive Tyrants must suddenly replace their whip & sword for scything talons, then replace one set of talons with a gun, followed by replacing the other set with a different gun, and take either a thorax swarm, armoured shell, or wings. And if your definition of any is along the lines of 'one or more without specification or identification', they must take at least one each of the biomorphs and the Hive Tyrant special abilities, making the bare bones Tyrant 15 points less than the Swarmlord.
And that's just the very first unit entry, things are getting silly fast.
I ... I may have had a lot of cough medicine today, on top of a bug in the software I use to build lists and some other things... I completely misread that rule.
Sorry for any confusion I caused.
My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
odorofdeath wrote:Where are you getting this "must take talons" crap? I've never seen anyone running that crap on a tervigon.
Adrenal glands, toxin sacs, and catalyst. 195 Points and every effective
See the Nids Codex - the very first bullet-point says "Take one of the following".
The Tyrant entry says, "Replace lash whip and bonesword with", there is no may there either.
By your logic, the Tyrant can never have LW/BS.
Look at any entry in the Tyranid codex and you'll see how your logic is flawed.
As for the OP;
The 2x Tervigon, 2xTrygon, 2x2 Hive guard list is probably the best Nidzilla list you'll be able to run. You could drop the 4 HG for another Trygon, but I would very much recommend sticking with the list posted.
Yeah you definatly don't have to take the ST or CC. Otherwise it would say you must. What its saying is you can only take one of those two. The next section says 'take any of the following' so instead of 'take one' its 'take any' so by your original logic you would have to take 'any' from the second list and that would apply to any options worded like that.
1000 points, 32 T6 wounds. Decent anti-tank for 1k. Hard for 1k armies to deal with FnP Trygons.
Thats actually a really good list for 1000 points, pretty good base list for higher points as well.
For example at 1750 that I play most commonly, I would add 2 more Hive Guard, 2 Venomthropes, another Trygon, another Tervigon (HQ probably), AGs on the Trygons and then probably 135 points of Gargoyles. Without taking anything out of the original list, just adding new units and upgrades you can get again a pretty solid 1750 Nidzilla list.
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The tervigon does not have to take a talon or crushing claw. It is an option, under the heading of OPTIONS. If it was mandatory, the entry would read "Must take one of the following:"
Here's my 1K nidzilla list. It's not balanced, but with 3 trygons, who needs AT shooting (hive guards):
.....Bay Area Open GT 2013 - Best Tyranids 
.....LVO GT 2014 Team Tournament - Best Generals