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Has anybody ever seen any reference to "Chaos" Orks in any 40K story, books, white dwarf etc.?

Orks are bad by nature, they kill humans for fun, other Orks, and every other race they can get their hands on ... so they're plenty bad, but not necessarily "Evil" like Chaos is. Gork and Mork, the two main Gods of Orkdom don't seem to be good natured either, but what's stopping orks from becomming tainted by Chaos and worshiping one of the four main powers instead?

Even in the old days of second edition 40K, a Chaos army could include Orks as allies ... they weren't "Chaos" Orks, just a warband hired by a Chaos Lord, or tricked into doing his bidding for some falsely promised reward. So when Orks are even fighting along side of Chaos troops they seem to be able to resist "turning to the dark side".

So if the argument was that the Chaos powers are only concerned with HumanKind ... then how is it that Daemon Worlds are populated by billions of beastmen, mutants, and all kinds of strange aliens? No orks anywhere in there? Even one of the four main Chaos Gods was created by the Eldar.

So if anybody has ever heard of "Chaos" Orks, please share. I'm starting to like the idea of an ork Clan being tainted with blood-lust and starting to worship Khorne. It seems like that would be the best fit of any of the four main Chaos Gods. What do you think?

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I think I remember reading somewhere (maybe their codex?) that some Orks do turn to Khorne, but it's seen as un-orky, so not many do it
It sounds like it would/should happen more than it does, Gork does seem like he'd be secret buddies with Khorne...

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Codex: Demonhunters had an illustration of nurgle orks, though I think that isn't considered canon now.


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Ya, I believe their was a story about Khornate orks........

Anyway, I was thinking about turning my Orks into Chaos orks....

Their your minis paint them how you damn well please!

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Why would an Ork fight for a god when he already fights for himself?

 
   
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Sovspot wrote:Why would an Ork fight for a god when he already fights for himself?


Erm.... Gork and Mork?

I don't see why Nurgle Orks wouldn't still be cannon.


   
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I have a chaos ork figure, he has a hoof and horns.

I do think orks are rather more resistant to the corrupting effects of chaos though because their enjoyment of things is actually quite pure. They like killing, and they like being an Ork. They aren't incorruptible but chaos holds little attraction.
   
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Hey this thread seems to have cropped up again

The general consensus (and what is usually considered canon) is that Orks do not willingly turn to chaos (like a human would be tempted to make a pact with the dark gods by promises of glory and power) and anything 'un-orky' such as a daemon (or anything that isn't an ork, really) promptly gets duffed over.

However, orks not being the brightest could quite easily mistake a carefully placed and suitably cunning chaos entity as an image of Gork/Mork (e.g, a great unclean one is big, green and dead 'ard, and so resembles the ork gods rather well) and will unknowingly become corrupted by chaos in appeasing what they think is an idol of gork/mork

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Chaos orks can technically exist, but are rare. Orks naturally turn on anything non-orky, including other orks not acting in an orky way.

Orks have their own psychick manifestations that are perfectly suited to their minds (gork and mork), so there is no hook for corrupting or tempting them.

In their own way orks are a very psychically mature race and highly resistant to work corruption, to the point that int he RPG's they are just considered uncorruptable for game purposes.

That being said:
They can physically infected and corrupted.
Orks have turned to chaos gods in the past as a personal choice, though they don't last long as they get krumped by other orks.

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Daemonhunters dex had Orks mistaking an ancient idol of Nurgle for Gork and/ or Mork and worshiping it. The Grey Knights then had to arrive to stop them doing something stupid and opening a warp rift.


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... and the Orks became even tougher and covered in warts and such.

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In this trailer the orks are fighting with Chaos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrIz1jbomqI ( in German )

So maybe it´s possible

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It could happen to ork boyz because their very easy yo persuade

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I think "chaos orks" is a wrong term. I think better one would be "orks with gifts of chaos". Chaos gods have very little to offer to orks. Orks are already immortal and immune to decease so Nurgle out of the game.
Art? Only art ork make is when they spatter Slaanesh's guts all over his palace. While Khorne is most ork like chaos god he can only offer fighting which orks already have. And Tzeentch, well only politics orks like is shotgun diplomacy.

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In the Ork Codex they detail a Waaagh in which the Warboss freaks the Imperium out by brining more ships into Imperial space than even Armageedon! They were landing in Cadian space upon training planets for specialist imperial guardsmen.

The ork pysch themselves up by fighting there for a brief time taking on endless amounts of guardsmen and marine chapters. Once the boyz were ready they ran into the eye of terror the whole dame fleet.

Details like "bringing iron clad boots crashing through mysterious crystaline walls" or "krumpin dem nurgle boyz". The point is that Orkish Corruption doesn't normally happen and will unlikely ever in the 40k universe, Fantasy is different though mind you.

Orks have become husks for demons or killed upon traversing the warp but never giving into mutation or psychic abilities why any other race would. They can stomp through the warp itself looking for a good fight and not so much as get head aches.

I would the odds of them being considered anything but legend would be impressive.

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i think the only way an ork would turn to chaos is if you convinced him that "khorne is shootier an' stompier then those gitz gork n' mork" and that he would make you shootier and stompier too

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Orks are preternaturally resilient to the forces of Chaos, so that a Chaos-corrupted Ork is extremely rare to the point of being unheard of-- one in trillions.

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There are really, really old Ork metal Freebooterz miniatures called "Ork Chaos Champion" and "Stormboy of Khorne".

I have no idea what the fluff is for this miniatures, but they do exist.

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Orks can turn to Chaos - like eveyrone else says its rare but not unheard off.

Daemons can possess them - although again not easy and if its a weirdboy apparently neither of them enjoy it!

They can be physically corrupted just as Genestealers can infect Orks. They can join in with Chaos if there is a good fight and get corrupted just as Blood Axes pick up elements of human military culture.

An Ork might see the Chaos warriors growing spikes and such like and think - thats dead good and how do we get them things........

However as also noted, other Orks will try and krump "unorky" Orks asap - part of their races many many effective and inherient defence mechanisms....

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Mr Morden wrote:Orks can turn to Chaos - like eveyrone else says its rare but not unheard off.

Daemons can possess them - although again not easy and if its a weirdboy apparently neither of them enjoy it!

They can be physically corrupted just as Genestealers can infect Orks. They can join in with Chaos if there is a good fight and get corrupted just as Blood Axes pick up elements of human military culture.

An Ork might see the Chaos warriors growing spikes and such like and think - thats dead good and how do we get them things........

However as also noted, other Orks will try and krump "unorky" Orks asap - part of their races many many effective and inherient defence mechanisms....


Ah yes the Humble Ork, Doing what the Imperium couldn't get undercontrol for several decades of table top playing. I bet every ork just thinks the Imperium is full of idiots that can't handle those sorts of things like "Genesneakers" or "Chaos boyz"

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Whether possible or not. I think most people will agree that Chaos Orks are a lame idea for an army. Not as lame as Chaos Grey Knights or any army IN PINK, but still lame.

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Kroothawk wrote:Whether possible or not. I think most people will agree that Chaos Orks are a lame idea for an army. Not as lame as Chaos Grey Knights or any army IN PINK, but still lame.


Chaos Orks are not a lame idea, it's an original idea.........

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Kroothawk wrote:Whether possible or not. I think most people will agree that Chaos Orks are a lame idea for an army. Not as lame as Chaos Grey Knights or any army IN PINK, but still lame.


Chaos Orks are not a lame idea, it's an original idea.........
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Ahem. No. It is not original in any way.

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bombboy1252 wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Whether possible or not. I think most people will agree that Chaos Orks are a lame idea for an army. Not as lame as Chaos Grey Knights or any army IN PINK, but still lame.


Chaos Orks are not a lame idea, it's an original idea.........


Uh, no. Not in any way shape or form. It was done to death by 1990.

And saying "chaos x" is NEVER an original idea. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it is a fact. New players ALWAYS want to tack chaos onto anything and everything, even from other universes. "Chaos Jedi", "Chaos Borg", "Chaos Furries". Tacking on a chaos descriptor is never original.

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"Chaos sisters!"
"Chaos tau!"
"Chaos tyranids!"
"Chaos necrons!"
"Chaos grey knights!"
"Chaos Emperor!"
"Chaos Chaos!"

Add "Chaos" before any word, and I guarantee someone else has done it before. Even pumpernickel sandwich.

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Melissia wrote:"Chaos sisters!"
"Chaos tau!"
"Chaos tyranids!"
"Chaos necrons!"
"Chaos grey knights!"
"Chaos Emperor!"
"Chaos Chaos!"

Add "Chaos" before any word, and I guarantee someone else has done it before. Even pumpernickel sandwich.


Let's take an excerpt from fantasy shall we?

Chaos Trolls
Chaos Giants
Chaos Dwarves
Chaos Goblins
Chaos Skaven
Chaos chariots
Chaos beastmen
Chaos Champions
Chaos Deamons
Chaos armour

The list goes on and on, agreed the work "Chaos" is too well used in warhammer f/40k i feel like honestly the right way to do chaos is to simply call them cute bunny names till they explode.

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@OP: hold on, orks are not evil. They do what they do because they find it fun.

The idea of Chaos orks isn't bad in itself (though quite un-orky), I think it was perfect in the Daemon Hunters Codex : a very rare occurence that justified deploying the Grey Knights and offered an interesting and unusual take on the army.

Kroothawk wrote:Not as lame as Chaos Grey Knights or any army IN PINK, but still lame.
But but but Khornate Grey Knights are canon !

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Melissia wrote:"Chaos sisters!"
"Chaos tau!"
"Chaos tyranids!"
"Chaos necrons!"
"Chaos grey knights!"
"Chaos Emperor!"
"Chaos Chaos!"

Add "Chaos" before any word, and I guarantee someone else has done it before. Even pumpernickel sandwich.


Chaos Pumpernickel sandwich................

Yum........

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Melissia wrote:"Chaos sisters!"
"Chaos tau!"
"Chaos tyranids!"
"Chaos necrons!"
"Chaos grey knights!"
"Chaos Emperor!"
"Chaos Chaos!"

Add "Chaos" before any word, and I guarantee someone else has done it before. Even pumpernickel sandwich.


Chaos Pumpernickel sandwich................

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