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Okay, Please bear with me, im a noobie who is planning on getting into Warhammer 40k space marine army. and since i don't really like the idea of using a cookie cutter army, I wanna make my own. I was planning a conglomeration of tribes and soldiers from a Deathworld, each tribe having it's speciality. Assault marines are from one tribe, the tactical marines are from the growing government, you get the picture. (yes, i am using inspiration from Fallout. so?)

(oh and im starting out with Black reach.)

I dont fully get the rules and didn't really read a codex cover to cover, but i was hoping to get some advice for my army. okay, here it goes. *deep breath*

I was planning on having a captain that is mainly support and mostly a shooty guy. Maybe even put him in a squad with sternguard or other veterans. I heard you can give him Hellfire rounds? idk. but this is in the long run. Short term is have him run around by himself and support other squads.

For my first dreadnaught, I was planning to make him with a lascannon and missiles, being my early starter for tank killing.

I was planning to make two tac squads because i only have ten marines with this starter. yes they will usually be ranged, why do you ask? I was planning to give one squad a lascannon and another squad with a heavy bolter.

Terminators will be close combat oriented.

and thats it for my short term army.

for my future plan, im hoping to add more tactical, a devastator squad and some assaults, maybe a scout sniper squad and a stern guard squad.

for transport I was hoping to add a stormraven dropship? is there any way to give this to a space marine chapter without blood angels? The idea of this dropship coming to the battlefield to unleash some veterans whilst shooting a plasma cannon turret.

and also i was hopeing to add a Baal predator?The Blood ravens seem to have all the cool toys...

well thats it for now... please help... and be kind

First off, welcome to Dakka!

Secondly, this particular forum is more for Rules questions/debates than it is for army advice. I'd suggest having your post moved to the 40K Tactics forum, where you'd probably find folks more than happy to help you.

Ohhhh.... umm.... how?

And thank you good sir, for the welcome.

Tiger9gamer wrote:Ohhhh.... umm.... how?

And thank you good sir, for the welcome.

The little yellow triangle in the upper right corner of a post alerts the mods. There you can tell them you'd like the post moved. I've already alerted them for you, however.

puma713 wrote:

Tiger9gamer wrote:Ohhhh.... umm.... how?

And thank you good sir, for the welcome.

The little yellow triangle in the upper right corner of a post alerts the mods. There you can tell them you'd like the post moved. I've already alerted them for you, however.

okay, Thanks again, but what will happen now? and i apologies for asking so much questions

Edit: couldnt i copy paste into the following forum?

Yellow Triangle is your friend, thread moved!

I'll try to give a review of your unit choices but these doesn't look at how they can work together:
If you go for captain, which is a good HQ though librarian may be better for you, then you could go for a command squad instead of the sternguard as your shooty element. They'll have feel no pain and can be setup in so many ways.
Sternguard are also an excellent choice, keep them cheap enough by the way.

The AoBR dread is cheap and a good tank buster though MM is a little short ranged. Then having 2 TLautocannon arms is probably the best shooty dread available. You've chosen a slightly expensive option.

You should at least give the tactical squads a flamer and everyone likes a melta. Heavy bolters are rubbish, lascannons are useful and are cheap for tactical squads.

Assault termies are hard to transport. They will usually have a turn waiting to assault, which can be fine but needs to be thought about. 'raiders solve this but then 'raiders need the list to help them to work well.

Transportation is going to key, how will you get troops in range.

Then think how these units work together and give the enemy tough decisions. There are a variety of ways to work this out with your units.

Stormravens are BA and GK, Baals are only BA.
Assault marines are only good for BA and tactical squads are not good for BA.

With marines you should think about 1500 pt or higher lists, this means you know where you are going. Trying to find balance at 1000 pts leads to not being able to expand your army easily or successfully.

MFletch wrote:I'll try to give a review of your unit choices but these doesn't look at how they can work together:
If you go for captain, which is a good HQ though librarian may be better for you, then you could go for a command squad instead of the sternguard as your shooty element. They'll have feel no pain and can be setup in so many ways.
Sternguard are also an excellent choice, keep them cheap enough by the way.

The AoBR dread is cheap and a good tank buster though MM is a little short ranged. Then having 2 TLautocannon arms is probably the best shooty dread available. You've chosen a slightly expensive option.

You should at least give the tactical squads a flamer and everyone likes a melta. Heavy bolters are rubbish, lascannons are useful and are cheap for tactical squads.

Assault termies are hard to transport. They will usually have a turn waiting to assault, which can be fine but needs to be thought about. 'raiders solve this but then 'raiders need the list to help them to work well.

Transportation is going to key, how will you get troops in range.

Then think how these units work together and give the enemy tough decisions. There are a variety of ways to work this out with your units.

Stormravens are BA and GK, Baals are only BA.
Assault marines are only good for BA and tactical squads are not good for BA.

With marines you should think about 1500 pt or higher lists, this means you know where you are going. Trying to find balance at 1000 pts leads to not being able to expand your army easily or successfully.

Sweet! thanks for the great info MFletch. I was planning on makeing this succesor chapter ranged orientated, or kind of a mixed army, and I was planning to go with a couple more squads of tactical marines. I like the ranged aspect of fighting, but im not going to make it devoid of assault and waist a lot of the BA talents.

So, maybe more towards shooting and a couple assault marines? would that still work for a sucessor chapter?

And I was thinking of a Baal pred for a tank with a stormraven dropping off my command and later on a few rhinos for everyone else.



Side note!: umm, I sincerly apologies for the multi threads of mine I didnt know what was what and how my thread would have moved. I kinda copy pasted my question onto here before X-X

First off, you prolly mean newbie, noobie has unplesant connotations.

Second, marines are probably a fair starter army though there's really very little you can do to make them stand out when you join the ranks of power armour players. I mean, of the 16 available armies, 8 are imperial and 5 of those are marines.

I mean it's certainly doable you just need to put in the effort fleshing out their backstory and making each model relatively unique.

Next, I think getting the aobr plus 1-2 battleforces (maybe 1-2 standard marine and a ba one) should get you a nice solid base with plenty of the troops you'll need to hold those objectives.

Okay, thanks for the advice ^^ and I dont have a lot to drop onto my marine force,but I'll defiantly look to buy them ^^