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Whoa, i just did my list and wow on the Koningtigers with Porsche turrets 3 for 1000 pts. over half the points of my German par troopers force.Does any one have any good suggestions on reducing my armies points overall.Also what is the battle field effectiveness of theese tanks. I have not used them yet.

I wouldn't recommend King Tigers personally. Too much for to little. They are rated as Overloaded, Slow tank, Slow Traverse and Unreliable. I prefer Pather Ds the best overall tank IMHO.

ETA:I you do want them I'd recommend that you plant them on objectives, and use them to hold them. Pretty much making them self mobile 88s.

Makarov wrote:I wouldn't recommend King Tigers personally. Too much for to little. They are rated as Overloaded, Slow tank, and Unreliable. I prefer Pather Ds the best overall tank IMHO.

ETA:I you do want them I'd recommend that you plant them on objectives, and use them to hold them. Pretty much making them self mobile 88s.

Good idea,on using them to hold objectives.
I just could not resist the old Glory price 3 for 15 bucks and metal!

col. krazy kenny wrote:

Makarov wrote:I wouldn't recommend King Tigers personally. Too much for to little. They are rated as Overloaded, Slow tank, and Unreliable. I prefer Pather Ds the best overall tank IMHO.

ETA:I you do want them I'd recommend that you plant them on objectives, and use them to hold them. Pretty much making them self mobile 88s.

Good idea,on using them to hold objectives.
I just could not resist the old Glory price 3 for 15 bucks and metal!

Yeah, I would suggest that you try to move them as little as possible.

The production models aren't Unreliable. They also have slightly better front armor (FA 15 vs FA 16, making them literally immune to *everything* from the front except the new German 12.8cm K81s in Grey Wolf, which can glance them). But they're also only available in River of Heroes and Grey Wolf.

I think they are funny to wheel out in the odd game (against an opponent you know!) but their price and effectiveness mean that they will effectively dominate any game you use them in.

It removes variety from games that's for sure, but I agree 3 for $15 is too good an offer to pass up on!

Pacific wrote:I think they are funny to wheel out in the odd game (against an opponent you know!) but their price and effectiveness mean that they will effectively dominate any game you use them in.

It removes variety from games that's for sure, but I agree 3 for $15 is too good an offer to pass up on!

While I agree with you that they would be fun to bring out for scenarios or as an every once in awhile thing, I think looking at them as an EZ-Mode option or an auto-win is overestimating their abilities a bit. While they will certainly do some damage to an armored company, I think a list that's depending on three King Tigers to do the heavy lifting is really going to struggle against something like an infantry company. Imagine three King Tigers plus 500ish points of support against a 1500 point Soviet Strelkovy battalion with Sappers and flamethrowers, or a US infantry company loaded with bazookas and smoke. They just won't be able to put out enough fire to stop all that infantry.

I guess what I'm saying is, use King Tigers if you like them, but realize that they're probably going to struggle against certain forces.

Yes right I agree with you, I wasn't very clear in my post. I meant more in the sense that choosing the Tigers is an 'all eggs in one basket' kind of thing. They will completely dominate the game in terms of their performance either winning or losing you the game, and other than the joy of destroying stuff, and seeing shells bounce off you like summer rain, might actually be quite boring to play!

You could always take a Schwere Panzerkomoanie. King Tigers have to work for a living in those lists.

Otherwise they make fine bunkers.

I'm taking the ultra unreliable Porsche konigstiger from the Panzer Lehr list in our new years mega battle.

It's basically being used as a bunker to guard a bridge since once I deploy it, it's not moving.

Honestly, I think it'll be killed by planes or arty by the fourth turn. Or constantly smoked. But then that's less shots going at my other stuff in the field.