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A friend and I were thinking, and I started wondering: Is it possible for a bretonnian knight/lord/paladin ect. turn to chaos? I was thinking no, because of there very fanatical and powerful faith in the lady, but what does Dakka think? Are there any stories of knights turning? If so, what type of knight? Have questing knights turned to chaos during there travels? Have Errants become to thick headed and went to the power of the chaos? Has a Grail Knight ever turned??
Well, I can't recall a specific example of a Bretonnian going Chaos, but I don't think Faith would be much of a shield. Archaon was a priest of Sigmar before going nuts, and I don't expect all the Lords and such to be extremely faithful. If Faith does offer much protection...
But yes, it's easy for a bret knight to fall to the Dark Gods. Maybe very, very unlikely for say a Grail Knight to fall as he is litterly an avatar of the Lady, but then, you could say the same thing about the Emperor's Primarchs in 40k and look how that turned out!
There are many lesser sons of barons & dukes who have turned their back on the ideals of the Lady and gone all mercenary, typically traveling to the Border Princes or further south, though a few may also sell their services to an Elector Count or other powerful Empire noble.
Hell, Duke Maldred of Mousillon only kiddnaped the Fey Enchantress, locked her away and had his Lady Malfleur create a 'fake' Grail he then paraded across his dukedom!
And let's not forget the Red Duke of Aquitain who fell to the curse of vampirism and caused plenty of trouble.
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854 Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
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If it's a path that's chosen, what stops a knight from choosing to worship the Dark Gods? They're not fanatics at the level of Sigmarites, and as stated earlier, Archaon was a major Sigmarite zealot before he became the Everchosen.
The thing is, if a Bretonnian knight does indeed turn to Chaos, it can be assumed that he didn't really have that much faith in the Lady anyway.
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Well, there's a few types of Chaos. There's just the random warping. And some races are RESISTANT to it. Like Ogres, though they still succumb. Also Greenskins.
But then there's the gods specifically pointing someone out and taking them.
The only things that can't be taken I would say would be someone with a corresponding protection. Like you said the Lady. But it's not faith. If you catch the plague, you got the plague. No amount of wishful thinking will make it go away. If Khorne = the plague, the Lady = penicilin.
You have to think they would enjoy picking out such targets for corruption.
Surtur wrote:Blood Knights were Brets before the vamps got em.
The Blood Knights featured so heavily in the VC army book were originally the 'Order of the Blood Dragon' who's chapter keep is still the Blood Keep in the Empire!
The Bretonnian vampire is the Red Duke.
Sure there's likely some brets who are technically 'blood knights', but the ones featured in the game are specifically those empire knights cursed by Walach Harkon.
HoverBoy wrote:And slaan just die at the attempt. that or they kill the deamon depends on relative power i guess.
Yeah, Chaos Lizardmen don't make very much sense. At this point the lizardmen's entire existence is to destroy chaos and attempt to follow the old one's plans as much a possible.
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Actually, corrupting isolated skinks, kroxigor or even saurus might not be as impossible, altho fooling them is far likelier than an actual corruption.
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You never know if tzeentch is messing with you.
I mean falling to khorne isn't the most difficult to determine but tzeentch you never know with that guy. You could be worshipping him right now for all we know.
Overview of the WoC army book.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/388667.page#3171854 Ralin Givens is the chaos to my warriors. Ra Ra Ra go team awesome I mean chaos Tzack Vahr Zhen's unholy followers.
all hail Howie Mandel deal or no deal it dosnt matter tzeentch wins
Khorne flakes part of a good breakfast when you plan to kill maim and burn all!!!
They are only mere men after all, and the cost of their status/power atm is pretty bad, its easy to see an arrogant, greedy noble bartering with chaos imo.
Faith can be rather blinding too when you get too far into it. Say a Tzeentch Cultist/Daemon whispered into a Knights ear saying that he/she was the Lady and to follow his command. The Knight then kills, captures and is corrupting in the name of what he see as "The Lady" but is really Chaos. Ta da, easy peasy.
Chaos can corrupt anyone. And I find that idea much more interesting than any absolute purity. It's one of the reasons I roll my eyes at Grey Knights, but that's 40k, so a different thread. XD
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cowpow16 wrote:You never know if tzeentch is messing with you.
I mean falling to khorne isn't the most difficult to determine but tzeentch you never know with that guy. You could be worshipping him right now for all we know.
Lizardmen are ants. They are spawned from "magic" pools with all the knowledge they will ever know about to do the job they were destined/spawned to do. They're robots. Only the Slaan are thinky guys and all of them are connected telepathically and such. They're the queen bees and everone else are drones. You can't corrupt a drone because it has no ambition other than to be a drone. That's the whole Cold Blooded concept.
They're the reverse of Daemons. A Daemon isn't going to decide to become a Wood Elf one day. No matter how pretty the trees are.
They're the reverse of Daemons. A Daemon isn't going to decide to become a Wood Elf one day. No matter how pretty the trees are.
Hahahaha! Brilliant!!!!
Have to say I agree with the majority of the thread. No reason why Knights Errant or any similar lesser knight can't be swayed by Chaos. The idea is actually a pretty cool one at that!
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Surtur wrote:Blood Knights were Brets before the vamps got em.
The Blood Knights featured so heavily in the VC army book were originally the 'Order of the Blood Dragon' who's chapter keep is still the Blood Keep in the Empire!
The Bretonnian vampire is the Red Duke.
Sure there's likely some brets who are technically 'blood knights', but the ones featured in the game are specifically those empire knights cursed by Walach Harkon.
I think this is getting confused with the Black Grail from Dark Omen, who were a unit of undead Grail knights.
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In the brets army book, the story of mousillon says that duke merovech 'fought like a daemon, and tore out the kings throat with his bare hands.'
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