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Can Daemons be actually killed not just being banished back to the Warp?

And a side question: Would the Imeprium mallow forming of a new Chapter based entirely on fallen Legion but loyal? ( example Emperor's Children Chapter with same color schemes and markings as original Legion )

The fluff for the psychic power Holocaust states that it can permanently damage and even kill a daemon.

As for the side question, not sure, but I'd assume they'd avoid that.

Luke_Prowler wrote:The fluff for the psychic power Holocaust states that it can permanently damage and even kill a daemon.

As for the side question, not sure, but I'd assume they'd avoid that.

I'm pretty sure that even the thought of the traitor legions is considered heresy at this point in time. Remaking an identical legion, but loyal would be extreme heresy. the traitors must be destroyed and forgotten as their ultimate punishment. Creating a loyal legion in their image would go against that.

As for demon killing, I think holocaust is pretty much it. It would probably only work against minor demons though.

No you cant you can banish it and stuff like that also you can trap it in a dimensional vault and bind it to stuff but not even the chaos gods can kill it

for the side question no they would get the goodies and either add them into another chapter join them into the inquisition or if theirs enough make a new chapter

There's a great bit in the second Eisenhorn book where he hits a Daemon Host with his Runestaff and thinks that he may have actually destroyed it, rather than banishing it.

i think the daemons just go back to the warp, the problem is trying to close or get rid of the warp

Lesser Daemons can be killed with the proper rites such as the holocaust as they are little more than manifestations of emotions, but the likes of the Heralds, Exalted Daemons, Princes & Greaters can only be banished for a set period of time as their power is far too great, hence why they're truely immortal.

As for using traitor gene-seed to create a like legion? The High Lords and the Mechanicus wouldn't go right out and be quite that open about it, but there are dark rumors that the Mechanicus has spliced different gene-seeds in the past to try and weed out known defects.
The Lamenters untill the current BA codex were always rumored to have been created using both BA & DA gene-seed.

Some chapters such as the Exorcists or Blood Ravens could theoretically have been a hybrid of say Ultramarine & 1ksons as it would explain how both those chapters have such a high number of Librarians and greater understanding of the warp.

Yes, but its pretty damn hard to do.

Experiment 626 wrote:The Lamenters untill the current BA codex were always rumored to have been created using both BA & DA gene-seed.

Ugh, what sort of plan was that? Did the Ad-Mech decide that weapons grade emo was going to be the best weapon against Chaos?

The Blood Ravens are currently hinted as being straight up loyalist 1k Sons. YMMV.

When daemons die they come back 101 years later.

Horus is the only character I can think of who dies and is not simply banished but destroyed for all time.

Hit it with a big enough psychic boom and it will die. You can also kill them if you're in the Warp. Draigo killed a Bloodthirster for instance. Then again this may only apply to Draigo being Draigo.

Daemons are "pieces' of their host chaos god. When they are banished they are simply sent back.

Two types of destruction, one being the persona that the "piece" takes on is destroyed and then returned to whatever host god that may be.

The second is where a piece of the chaos god is actually destroyed. Not exactly easy even with a small daemon. There are a couple instances of this happening in the lore. But it usually ends up with the maiming or destruction of whoever did it.

The fluff is sometimes contradictory about this. In my only little bubble of personal canon, Daemons can be destroyed but it's very difficult and the majority of the time you've "killed" a Daemon you've just banished it back to the Warp.

The Eldar have a sword that is basically a crystallized shard of pure death that's capable of outright killing even really powerful daemons, though admittedly the oldest demon princes might be a bit beyond it, they really don't like getting hit with it.

That being said, there's a perfectly reasonable way to, for good, kill any daemon you like: get a bigger daemon to eat it. There have been plenty of anti-daemon daemon weapons that operate under that principal, fighting fire with fire, so to speak.