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So, I play guard, and along the course of my guard career, any new units that I add are part of the same guard army. I was thinking last night how my color scheme is in such a way where vehicles look sort of dumb, so if I wanted to make a major push to do a bunch of guard vehicles, I'd probably paint them in a very different color scheme. This would, of course, mean different colored infantry to match. While I'm there, I might as well give them different fluff.

Of course, it then struck me that if I did this, I would have two different guard armies. This got me wondering if other people have done this ever. I'm not talking about having a bunch of different colored units in the same army because you bought them piecemeal off of ebay, or because it's a "combined" outfit of several other army groups combined ("well, after a huge battle, some crimson fists and some salamanders got together, and have been fighting side by side ever since" kind of a thing").

What I'm talking about is making a full 2000+ points army and then deciding that you want to run a different style out of the same codex and so have created a second army with it's own fluff and paint scheme and the like. Has anybody else done this, or do most people think of it as a single army with different elements, or making a new army after selling the old one, or something?

I have a combine SW and Hawk Lords army.

They looks very silly, the giant purple and grey Land raiders.

Yeah, but I'm not talking about combined units. I'm talking about two different armies from the same codex that, unless you really had to, you wouldn't field the models together at the same time.

Ailaros wrote:Yeah, but I'm not talking about combined units. I'm talking about two different armies from the same codex that, unless you really had to, you wouldn't field the models together at the same time.

Ah. I see what you mean.

I feel stupid now...

Chowderhead wrote:

Ailaros wrote:Yeah, but I'm not talking about combined units. I'm talking about two different armies from the same codex that, unless you really had to, you wouldn't field the models together at the same time.

Ah. I see what you mean.

I feel stupid now...

You should
I made 2 SM forces 500 and 1000 points each.

I've toyed with painting another Space Marine army in Ultramarine, Blood Raven, and Imperial Fist schemes at different times, even though I've got too many Crimson Fists to count. I know a good deal of Chaos players have multiple armies from the same codex though, like a Death Guard, World Eaters, and general Black Legion list for example.

I am actually working on a separate DoA list useing the same paint scheme as my BA. I am playing it as a completely separate army.

I have wanted to make multiple SM armies as well.

Yeah I'm in the process of doing that now. I originally made a DoA army for Blood Angels which used an ok color scheme. Now I'm actually completing my Mech BA force which uses a more traditional color scheme for the Blood Angels. The original Assault Marines I used have too much paint on them so sometime in the future I will be stripping them and reusing them.

I have 2 distinct codex marine armies... one of bikes, one mechanized. I also have a deathwing army and blood angels army in the same scheme... Aurora chapter all

I sort of went through this...

When I first started 40k, I couldn't decide between Raven Guard and Salamanders, so I bought the Battle Company boxed set (stupid idea for a first purchase of 40k models).. I started painting them up, with the idea of doing a crusade force...

I messed up on the generic captain model, so I made another one with bits, and the generic captain got stripped, and sort of became a test model (along with a fethed up assault marine)... What resulted was an attempted Iron Snakes color scheme, which soon became the basis for my entire army, and all Sallies and RG were stripped and have been repainted in the boltgun, red and white.. So out of "two" armies, one was born.

dunno if that counts.. but I also run the Snakes in either the SW book, as I feel it fits the Abnett created fluff better than Codex, but when I feel the need to unleash my LotD, I'll run them vanilla dex as well.

Yes. I'm actually looking at 3 out of the same dex... one for each style of play. Deathwing hybrid, Ravenwing, and a Greenwing.

IG will likely be the same way, mechanized infantry (all those chimeras) doesn't appeal to me, but a panzer heavy list, aircav, and infantry horde with armored support does. That and IG just looks great by itself sitting on a shelf if I don't get to play a game in awhile.

yeah, I have a jetbike and wraith guard army ( JB at about 100pts, wraith guard are at 1500pts) along with slaanesh and nurgle army (slaanesh is at 2000pts and nurgles at 1500pts)

I keep wanting to do this with other armies but I figure there's little point as I already have X army so why do I need an X2 army :/

I fully intend on having a Salamanders army of ~1500-2000pts, likely commissioned because I love Sallies and want them to look awesome. I also intend on building a DIY chapter to use C:SM, C:BA, and CA for some Deathwing, probably about a ~3000pts army when complete. Both space marines, just different colours really.

I don't think its a bad idea, and you can always play an apocalypse game with both armies if the need/desire ever arises. Besides, for someone like yourself that really enjoys the painting and modelling aspect of the hobby, what's there to lose? You get a whole new perspective on a codex you already know and love and get to try out some new ideas I bet you're dying to try.

Ailaros wrote:What I'm talking about is making a full 2000+ points army and then deciding that you want to run a different style out of the same codex and so have created a second army with it's own fluff and paint scheme and the like. Has anybody else done this, or do most people think of it as a single army with different elements, or making a new army after selling the old one, or something?

I have chaos marine armies for Khorne, Nurlge and Slaanesh, so yes. Generally the armies I buy for a new book come out to about 3000 points so that I can adapt myself to what I want to play when I want to play it. So my marine army could have more vehicles in it one game, but more scouts and assault marines the next so I don' t have to build two different armies separately to do it on the table top.

Skriker

Space Marines: nope, never made another, every marine is in my Chapter(once legion)

Chaos: only getting into it with a simple Chaos Lord, so no.

Orks: We got many different Clanz workin' fer da biggest Warlord Gorgutz.

Imperial Guard: wanted to, to make a huge crusade type army, but it failed ultimately.

Yeah. I have a gunline army (12th Pheltorian Rifles Regiment) and a mechvets army (221st Marcone Regiment) the only thing I do differently from what you discribed is use the same tanks (8th Hudsonian Armor) and artillery ( 3rd Nemosian Artillery.) When I play apoc i combine it all together to form the 18th Imperial Division

And all the regiments have different paint schemes. And I have a command staff that represents Lord General Sir Alec Stensson

Never built the same army twice, however. I have somewhere in the region of 5000 points of IG. Take out the tanks, which all have a similar paint scheme. The infantry, however, has turned into something else. It started Cadian, now, Catachans are almost identical as the Cadians, and now have started Valhallans. I didn't notice the same load outs one each race until my wife said something.

My Ork army is the 3rd time I've collected it. I had the same exact models and kits 2 times prior to the ones I have now.

I've got an Ultramarine Army and a Salamanders Army. Both are the same codex both of the armies are pretty much the same...

I usually feel more tempted to build a second IG army than any other force.

I have built two different Imperial Guard armies, one loyal and the other Blood Pact. I had also at one point a Red Corsair army and a self made traitor chapter that went by the name The Sons Of Byss, both reached 2500 points before I decided I did not want to collect Astartes

I do have two different Imperial Guard armies, and enough CSM stuff to run two armies

On top of Eldar, Tyranids, Tau, Grey Knights, Sisters...

My Ork army is freebooters, so I am under no obligation to make them fit into a unified paint scheme. (When I first saw your thread title, I assumed you were referring to army lists.)

I have a Chaos Undivided army and a Thousand Sons army. So yes.

Although my Daemon Princes could probably play with either force.

I have my green marines, second army I ever painted . I now also have my Crimson Fists tournament army, sixth painted 40k army.

Both have over 5000 points now.

Many guard units can fight together at the same time. its not to outlandish to assume they do not.

I have two different armies, with two different fluff:

The 1st Concordian Armored, with matte-green tanks and minimal infantry.

The 110th Akkadian Heavy Infantry, with blue-and-yellow (think WWI Zouave French) uniforms and body armor, who are prideful and noble.

I rarely combine the two - the Heavy Infantry have their integral armor, and the Concordians have integral infantry support (only a bit). Maybe in Apocalypse.

I have technically split my Imperial Guard into two (soon to be three) regiments. I almost always field them together, but they can each fight alone without support from the other.

1st Shadowsreach (Armored Company) 1850pts
1088th Cadia (Mechanized Guard) 1605pts <-This name changes based on the fluff-of-the-day
9th Zephyria Rangers (WIP Drop Troops) 130pts

Ailaros wrote:Yeah, but I'm not talking about combined units. I'm talking about two different armies from the same codex that, unless you really had to, you wouldn't field the models together at the same time.

Hand me my TV-watching Faberge Egg. No, not that one! That's my sitting-in-quiet-contemplation Faberge Egg!

EDIT: All joking aside, no, I've never even thought about running two different armies from the same codex. I like to think that even if I tried, something in my brain would snap, remind me that two-thirds of Somalia is starving right now, and then induce a cluster headache as punishment for my decadence.

I've started a guard army three times! First started with Steel Legion until I saw the Death Korps models, then I started an Elysian army after they released IA8!

Why are all the guard model ranges so good? aaargh...