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been playing a few games vrs necrons latley. been fighting battles at the 1350 pt mark.

necrons typically bring:
monolith, big unit of immortals with imotekh attached, a 20 blob of warrirors with the flying trasport (warriors either disembark via this or monolith) 6 wraiths. 3 spyders and a few scarabs. he also has some crypteks? one has a veil, the others carry voltaic staffs. the biggest issue so far is dealing witht he immortals and wraiths. to that end i figure iw ould try a gaurd list spamming as much high str as possible points are off a touch but our group generally allows +/- 10 pts since we play casual. if i can find a way to keep what i have and reduce the pts by 10 awsome, but i am at a loss how to do it without loosing stuff i kind of want around. (such as the master of ordance the PSB or vet meltas)

HQ:
CCS w/ master of ordance – 100

ELITES:
psyker battle squad (10 man) in chimera = 165

Troop:
Infantry platton Infantry Platoon = 335
command squad w/missile launcher =45
infantry squad w/ autocannon = 60
infantry squad w/ autocannon = 60
hev wep team w/3 autocannons = 60
hev wep team w/3 lazcannon = 110

Vetern squad w/ 3 meltaguns, =100

Fast attack:
hellhound = 130
hellhound = 130

Hev Support:

lemun russ w/ hev bolter, hev bolter sponsons = 170
basilisk = 125
basilisk = 125

= 1360

the general idea is to castle up in a corner with infantry protecting the lisks and russ, with hellhounds vets and PSB being my roamers to go out and harass. force the 'crons to sit back and deal with long range ordance and autocannon fire, or come close and get baked by flame and such. the master of ordance is there to provide additonal high str blasts. with the lisks at str 9, lazcannons and such i should be able to at least stun lock or hurt the monolith, and all the blasts and flame weapons should make short work of bunched up immortals or warriors (wich happens frequently due to teleporting) or the scarabs. thoughts?

Best veil defence is scout across the table then light up the targets you want with search lights.

isint veil the teleporter thing? nightfight i dont worry about too much... generally it goes both ways, and honestly with t he amount of guns fielded... if he wants to come close to me then thats fine!

whats tricky is his immortals teleport around then rapid fire into target. the end result of the teleport though is a nicley bunched up unit of expensive guys begging for a battle cannon or basilisk shot or 3.

Sorry my bad. I think you are right. I don't have to many problems with the veil as I run lots of strike squads

DarthSpader wrote:a 20 blob of warrirors with the flying trasport (warriors either disembark via this or monolith)

How is he fitting 20 Warriors in a transport? The Night Scythe only has a transport capacity of 15. `

maybe its 15 then. all i know is its a good size blob of warriors. in previous games i have just used venoms to dakka them down.

any thoughts on how this gaurd list will stack up though?

If you are going to run Vets, get lots of them and put them in Chimeras.
One squad without a ride won't last long, or do much.IMHO.
MoO sux.

I am not familure enough with Necrons to build a list just for them, but as far as I know, everything dies to massive amount of plasma, melta, and cannon (Auto and Las) fire. I do know Guard, and to start out, your points are totally off on your HWSs, so your actually more than 10pts over right now.

If you want to do a gunline, I feel you need to drop the vehicles like the Chimeras and the hell hounds. You also can't depend on scatterable artillery IMO, but it can do it's damage.

Try this on for size....

CCS - 120pts
Plasma gun, Standard, LC, Camo Cloaks

Marbro - 65pts

PCS - 50pts
4x Flamers or AC, 2x Sniper Rifles

PIS - 127pts (blob 1)
Commissar, 2x PW, Metla gun, AC, Bolt pistol

PIS - 82pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, AC, Bolt pistol

PIS - 82pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, AC, Bolt Pistol

LC HWS - 105pts

AC HWS - 75pts

Vets - 167pts
3x Plasma guns, LC, Sentries, Bolt pistol

Vets - 167pts
3x Plasma guns, LC, Sentries, Bolt pistol

Manticore - 160pts

Manticore - 160pts

1350pts

I had PWs on the Vets, but figured it didn't matter and got you bolt pistols and now 1350pts. Have the Vets hold the flanks, bubble wrap your Manticores with the 30 man blob. Keep the HWSs and PCS (if you go AC mode) within 12" of the CCS and keep trying to issue 'Bring it Down!' to the LC HWS to target the Monolith. The manticores can also fire on it (and they can direct fire to boot), but your facing a 1/3 chance to hit to get that center hole on it. I would rather use the manticores for the troops.

Sorry if this doesn't work for you.

looks like a coherant list....only issue is i dont have manticores. tank wise, i have a few chimeras, 2 hellhounds, a bunch of LRBT and 3 basilisks. wasent really wanting to buy more for my gaurd, since im working on nids, marines, DE and ogres atm.

Then switch out the Manticores for Basilisks.

Use those 70pts to...
A) Upgrade the Basilisks
B) Get a Lord Commissar with a PW (dropping the BPs) to use his 'Aura of Discipline' for the HWSs G
C) Get a 2nd AC HWS and drop the BPs from the blob to be 1349pts.