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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:03:49
Subject: Holding objectives
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Moldy Mushroom
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My friend and I were playing one of the new scenarios from the battle book he had recently purchased. There were four objectives scattered around the table centered on a "Chaos Warp Rift" from the scenario we had randomly chosen. Playing Space Orks, I had my usual large units of gretchin cluttering up the table in a long conga line. The unit was large enough to stretch around three of the four objectives but we weren't sure it was kosher for one troop unit to be holding three objectives. We were reading the rule book and searched this forum for any discussion of troops holding multiple objectives, but didn't find any references. The rule book didn't directly require one troop unit to be holding each objective, but on the other hand one troop unit holding three objectives seemed to be a bit of an abuse. Any suggestion on where to go to check on this issue?
Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:08:51
Subject: Holding objectives
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Per the BGB FAQ, it's allowed.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:10:30
Subject: Holding objectives
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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You check under 'Scoring Units' page 90.
It tells you that a non vehicle unit from the troops allowance can control objectives, without any restriction to how many they can control.
You can have one unit control 5 objectives if you wanted then to.
They can control 100 or more objectives if they were close enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:18:49
Subject: Re:Holding objectives
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Mesa, AZ
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See the Rulebook FAQ. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1830600a_40k_Rulebook_version_1_4.pdf
The unit can control several objectives.
Now, the way I would play it is, (and there is absolutely no rules to back this up, it is simply a house rule) the unit must maintain coherency in order to do so. Otherwise, you get a lot of long strung out units with huge gaps in them. It just looks silly, IMHO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:44:29
Subject: Re:Holding objectives
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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ToBeWilly wrote:Now, the way I would play it is, (and there is absolutely no rules to back this up, it is simply a house rule) the unit must maintain coherency in order to do so. Otherwise, you get a lot of long strung out units with huge gaps in them. It just looks silly, IMHO. 100% houserule, as there are no requirements to be in coherency when controlling an objective. Getting "a lot of long strung out units with huge gaps in them" is not possible, unless the unit that is holding multiple objectives have Gone To Ground. The unit that is holding multiple objectives MUST move to restore coherency in their next movement phase, unless that unit has Gone To Ground.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 04:59:35
Subject: Holding objectives
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Lethal Lhamean
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Unless they start in coherency, say in 5th turn, then get shot up...remove the models not by objective, etc, then. Some ends. They control all the objectives they are by
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 05:10:56
Subject: Holding objectives
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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DarthSpader wrote:Unless they start in coherency, say in 5th turn, then get shot up...remove the models not by objective, etc, then. Some ends. They control all the objectives they are by
That is why I said:
"MUST move to restore coherency in their next movement phase"
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 05:10:58
Subject: Re:Holding objectives
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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DeathReaper wrote:100% houserule, as there are no requirements to be in coherency when controlling an objective.
Never said it was anything but a houserule.
DeathReaper wrote:Getting "a lot of long strung out units with huge gaps in them" is not possible, unless the unit that is holding multiple objectives have Gone To Ground.
The unit that is holding multiple objectives MUST move to restore coherency in their next movement phase, unless that unit has Gone To Ground.
It is entirely possible!! On the last turn, on the previous to last turn, even, to remove models in such a way to still be within 3" of an objective and still move to regain coherency.
I've done it, and it's been done to me. Hence, the houserule.
Granted, it isn't something that will come up often. But, it still came up enough for us to do something about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 05:18:06
Subject: Holding objectives
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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I know you said it was a house rule. I even quoted you saying that it was a house rule. I just posted that to emphasize that it was a house rule. The "Getting "a lot of long strung out units with huge gaps in them" is not possible" was explained in my next sentence that they need to move to restore coherency. Why would they need to move to restore coherency if there weren't already huge gaps in the unit. I thought it was self explanatory, but hopefully this has clarified my previous post.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/15 08:23:45
Subject: Re:Holding objectives
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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I lost my last game in 'ard boys due to this very situation.
Last turn,10 man squad with a commissar lord strung out between 2 objectives. I did 9 wounds to the squad leaving the commissar at one objective and the sergeant on the other. Game ends without my opponent taking another turn. The commissar is still part of the unit so he still has both objectives.
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